Hansel Conversion

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by MissMelon, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Would hitting a tax free HLBC OSF and just emptying spies on The Haunting make more or would using both attacks and assassinates on The Haunting make more?
     
  2. That's a good question but I think that hitting tax free hcbc osf and emptying spies on eb is optimum.
    I guess it depends on how much att strength u have from builds an bfa though. This will determine how many pots u need to attack eb and ultimately how much you make per hit.
    Certainly for me using 10m worth att pots to hit it's better to hit the osf instead. I make 24.5m per hit doing that so each hit in eb would need to make over 34.5m for it to be better...
     
  3. More Updated Results *

    I have upgraded again and thought I would add these on.

    Last time I was at:
    • 21 Lvl4 Guilds, 13 Lvl3 SoS, 2 CoE, 1 Titan
    • ( 268,160 / 293,168 / 1,127,980 / 1,127,980 )

    And was making:
    • Assassination : 25,388,181 (first assassination only)
    • Attack (exl. reward) : 20,548,691

    I converted more guilds to SoS, leaving the attack buildings as the same, and these were the results:

    21 Lvl4 Guilds, 13 Lvl3 SoS = 20,548,691
    20 Lvl4 Guilds, 13 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl1 SoS = 20,529,728
    20 Lvl4 Guilds, 13 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl2 SoS = 20,498,861
    20 Lvl4 Guilds, 14 Lvl3 SoS = 20,525,335
    19 Lvl4 Guilds, 14 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl1 SoS = 20,507,782
    19 Lvl4 Guilds, 14 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl2 SoS = 20,477,753
    19 Lvl4 Guilds, 15 Lvl3 SoS = 20,521,113
    18 Lvl4 Guilds, 15 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl1 SoS = 20,505,018
    18 Lvl4 Guilds, 15 Lvl3 SoS, 1 Lvl 2 SoS = 20,480,170
    18 Lvl4 Guilds, 16 Lvl3 SoS = 20,531,088

    According to this, the plunder dropped when converting a Lvl4 Guild to a Lvl1 SoS (which was expected), and then dropped again when upgraded to Lvl2. But it increased slightly when upgraded to Lvl3, but was still lower than when I had the Lvl4 Guild.

    This pattern occurred throughout my upgrading, with my plunder slightly dropping on each conversion from guild to SoS. But I have finally reached the point where my plunder no longer decreases, and is back on the rise! :D

    I have 3 attack buildings instead of the 1 attack build, so this most probably affects the test results. But it shows that the plunder has started to increase. The # of SoSs out of spy buildings I have is 16/34 = 47%, and the # of SoSs out of all buildings was 16/37 = 43%.

    Not sure if this number means anything, but that's what my % of SoS to buildings are.

    All I have to test now is to see how it has affected my assassinations, item, and reward received from an attack now that my stats have increased. I'll continue to update this each time I get around to upgrading.

    So all in all, it is pretty conclusive that the plunder drop is only small when converting from Guilds to SoS, and your plunder does in fact increase after a certain point which was a theory pointed out in past threads.

    So the moral of the story is... Get upgrading to SoS! Feel free to follow Vandalise's T4 Hansel guide, but just know that you don't have to save 500b of whatever the ridiculous number was to upgrade a billion buildings in one go.

    Note: These tests were done on The Haunting, and therefore these results would not be accurate if hitting an OSF. The plunder drop in hitting in PWars is indeed significantly larger. This information refers to Epic Battles
     
  4. Excellent detail. Once my clan moves to EB more consistently that's definitely where I'm going
     
  5. Wow awesome missM I'm gonna start that with my alt thx
     
  6. Wonderful job MissMelon!!
     
  7. Rofl :p Thanks Merlynd. I bet you didn't even read it though hehe. It's quite lengthy :(
     
  8. I saw the numbers and my eyes got all glazed over and i thought, just gimme the damn answer..........
     
  9. Hahaha. Here, let me explain ;)

    SoS Hansel = Good


     
  10. SoS hansel = decent







    SoS hansel and stable = AWESOME!!
     
  11. Lol my bump worked
     
  12. Why wouldn't it work? Lol.

    Bump for a friend.
     
  13. this really helps as a non-PW build.
     
  14. I think I'm changing my t3 building to a stable.....