Ok - there seems to be a lot of conflicting info floating around forums. I completed all lowlands with lvl4 guilds and a lvl3 beastiery. I explored highlands and put up a lvl1 SOS. My plunder in pwar vs 5.0 osf went up by almost 1 mil pre hit. I explored a second land and put up a second lvl1 SOS. Again my plunder went up by 1 mil vs same osf. I'll keep posting results as I upgrade and build more SOS.
Just upgraded 1 SOS to lvl2. Plunder vs same osf only went up by about 100k. Vs smaller osf (3.4m) it did go down. Build now is 1x lvl3 beast, 23x lvl4 guild, 1x lvl2 SOS, 1x lvl1 SOS. Net plunder vs 5m osf just under 19m. Will continue to update
I have just checked and l1 SOS is better then l4 guild IN PLUNDER by approx. 23k. I am a hansel and I just tried it cuz I had spare cash XD
Here is some RAW data for you. Totals are Ally Plunder only. 22 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl2 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 19,942,570 22 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 19,274,237 20 Lvl4 guilds + 3 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,633,387 19 Lvl4 guilds + 3 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,440,604 19 Lvl4 guilds + 3 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl2 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,443,308 18 Lvl4 guilds + 3 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl2 SoS + 1 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,369,492 17 Lvl4 guilds + 3 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl2 SoS + 2 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,307,803 23 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 20,723,981 21 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 1 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 19,140,618 20 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 2 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 19,016,181 19 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 3 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,895,364 18 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 4 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,778,021 17 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 5 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,664,010 16 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 6 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,553,201 15 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 7 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,445,468 14 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 8 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,340,692 13 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 9 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,238,760 12 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 10 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,139,565 11 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 11 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 18,043,005 10 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 12 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,948,983 9 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 13 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,857,408 8 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 14 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,768,191 7 Lvl4 guilds + 1 Lvl3 SoS + 15 Lvl1 SoS + 1 Lvl3 Beast = 17,681,249 Note how each upgrade the drop was a little bit less. It eventually levels out and I am told starts climbing back up. I am told eventually SoS will earn more plunder than than Guilds once enough are built making an SoS Hansel more profitable than a guild hansel once you go through the "growing pains". Sorry I don't have the data to support this yet. In builds with small numbers of spy buildings (ie 8 or less) SoS are always more profitable than guilds. Even SoS1 makes slightly more than a Guild Level 4.
If SOS hansel produces higher plunder then why can't anyone show a screen shot showing this. Of course they must be a reliable source so not to cause questionable information :roll:
Plz stop confusing people.... Guilds are weaker and makes more plunder, no need for raw data in that department.. Guilds are all about allied bonus, and sos always decreases your allied bonus....... I make 16m first steal :arrow: :!: :roll: (b3fore tax) :arrow: a bc spy makes 17m first steal ( before tax) even if I'm wrong about allied bonus, doesn't change the fact that guilds make more on steals nuff said.. sos is so expensive adjfkldjfadjfka look down............................... TO HIT TAX FREE :!: :mrgreen: :!: YOU NEED 2 T4 LVL3 ATTACK BUILDINGS AND 35 GUILDS
If you will give me an aditional 3.7 bil I'd happily show you. I had 33 guilds l4 but I converted 3 of them to SOS L1 and I got 23k more ally plunder then a guild for each one. Of corse the main problem with a SOS is not that it actually gives less plunder, it is that it requires MASSIVE enemy stats to get good $$$. Knowing this Im converting my new SOSs to l3 first then getting more HLs then following the guild for SOS hansel cuz for some reason thats what I wanna be. Im not gonna OSF LOL
SoS all you pw noobs think about these days is plunder, plunder, plunder "how I'm I gonna get money the fastest?" corrupted to an extent I think Moral of the story is which I didn't even talk about us that I knew old friends that have became noobs and I call them corrupted cause all they talked about is pws and plunder
A t4 hansel slash osf I know makes 35 mil a hit after tax on a HLBC osf. That's around 5 million more then the highest t3 hansel I know.
Growth is the main attraction in a game in general, getting stronger and all that, the only situation for people to think of anything but plunder would be if they were bc... What else does kaw have to offer. Why doesn't anyone tell people the only other way to make profit pre t4 is by volleying people, but to a certain point, for example t2 lvl after unloading watch wc and hire away, just don't hire past 600m. You can even go as high as 900m, just don't hire back after... Theres always a big who volleys a new player past 1b..... Only reason people go sos is because they wanna make OSF TAX MONEY, most of em have no idea how much work it takes an osf to stay open... why would sos make more than a guild,, devs dont make it easy on people to solo build an osf main reason your plunder will drop nuff said.. :idea: :arrow: :twisted: :evil: :roll:
Look, a lot of people rave about how much plunder hansel builds make. Now that your cough up mister seven day badge :roll: I'm calling their bull **** and say to who ever can prove it with a screen shot should post one and until someone can I say hansel builds are garbage. Here is what I make off a 6M OSF (Not LCBC OSF)