Wait so they destroyed the spy farms?!?!?!?!?!!! Crap that's what I was hoping to use when I went spy to make money. That's not fair that attack builds get osfs and spy builds get nothing this sucks
Why not just take away spies all together now? It would be more practical then giving the people the idea to be a spy. They have no REAL use anymore, only because there is no significant source of income anymore. We will see a large DECREASE in spies now cause there is no way to make money. First you lower spy plunder, then you make lvl 4 guilds that actually LOWER spy plunder, then you take away Lightning Tower farms... Sounds like you're trying to kill an already dying breed.
I have decided I'm not going spy anymore . Now I'm just gonna get subs bc spys don't make enough money . This stinks
It is still possible to make money as a spy. You just have to fine people with a mixed build who are willing to let you spy on them. Just like OSF are people who are willing to let others attack them, we now need people who are willing to let others spy on them. See the discussion OSFFOSF...
24dude let me explain so you understand. To upgrade I will need for example 900 mill. So i need to max spy steal to be efficient or also to keep myself from being caught. That 3-5 mill I get? I can not have out because the rampaging attackers will hit me out of all my gold. So I buy puny ally or bank. Either way I risk losing 25% gold or getting the ally bought and lost. Now if I want to be even remotely competiive in end game i need max build, alot fo stron spy allies and attack pots. Now why would ANYONE want to go through that when they can ezmode attack inactive armies and get gold + plunder. Do these inactive armies have 0 gold? Of course! So wait why were the one thing feeding spys nerfed? Oh that's right inactive exploit......fail
I understand now... you are complaining that people can still attack inactives who have 0 gold and make lots of money, while people cannot steal from inactives.
Right, so the new farm osf will also be 1 army full spy builds. Only accessible when army levels are above the min. They will never bother to spy and there will never be another use for the file. It will sit there.
Ok... after some brutal testing since kaw has been mostly down all day I have a finding (unfortunately I had to change my build from osf to figure this out): Based on my current build I can be attacked by an osf even when I have no gold up until I have 7 lvl3 towers. Once I have 8 towers I must have gold out in order to not be "too weak". I tried with 9 towers to be sure and got the same result. My current build is 15 lvl3 guilds and 7 lvl3 def towers (I only have 22 out of 24 lands complete right now). I tried destroying two lvl3 guilds and left those 2 lands empty to see if maybe towers vs overall stats had something to do with it and found I was still able to be attacked unlimited by an osf. Hopefully this helps, let me know if anyone else can repeat my results or has anything to add. ~ProudDaddyx2
Your current build give you a difficulty of 3. Most spies build before LV4 was put in place has max difficulty of 3. Now with the LV4 upgrade, spies can have difficulty of 4. All T3 buildings can have max difficulty of 5 (etc. majesty). A pure spies with L3 Guild will not be able to touch majesty for example. However, pure spies with L4 Guilds with enough allies can hit majesty but there is a difficulty different: 4 vs 5. The same also apply to L4 pure spies hit you: 4 vs 3. So if you have spies build with difficulty of 4 try to hit you, you are protected with the too weak to hit base on a more requirement to prevent farming. However a pure spies with difficulty of 3 can hit you more and have less requirement. I have seen this behaviors long ago so I don't think this is new beside the amount of gold lost are reduced, etc... Hope these information will provide help if anyone want to do more testing...
Ummm thanks seikshadow but I'm not sure how helpful that was. This topic was posted because of the new update kaw admin put out a couple of days ago to stop spies from being able to spy steal unlimited from defensive tower builds like spyboot. My goal is to figure out after this update how strong a build can get until a kingdom with 0 gold results in a "too weak" error. Also, I will switch my build back and become an osf again if someone offers me a good farm to spy steal from (similar to spyboot but with gold). I was one of the few that allowed unlimited hits to everyone in kaw for up to 2 or 3 days at a time.
nicofm: Yes, they have. (Although the instance I am thinking of they also obliterated almost all evidence that the update ever happened.) ProudDaddyx2: Thanks for the information. -David