Fangs Are Fair Towards Attack Builds (Modified for Moths)

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by IlIlIlIlI-Versa-IlIlIlIlI, Nov 1, 2013.

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    Jansens make more fangs
     
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    I tested this and it worked for me 
     
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    I could've told you this... Known it for 2 years
     
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    Beow, you tested this with that build?

    Guys/Gals, you have any number to share so we can check your feedback or only the "yes, it worked for me" wich sounds as placebo effect? Thank you.
     
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    Based off OP and what I Learned 2 years ago... The ideal build is hansel OR Straught down the middle mix of 4m/4m/4m/4m obv it goes attk def spy attk spy def. Because you would be dealing equal damage across the board and wouldn't have to deal with drop in damage done.
     
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    Alright, after reading these pages and pages of comments, I have a couple things to input. Your size does directly correlate to how many fangs you receive and whether you have a high average damage output or not. Yet there are holes in this theory but it works for those that it the circumstances.

    I can't tell you exactly what these circumstances are but if you are an attack build, try this out and if it works, tell me what your stats and damage outputs are. If it does not work then tell me what your stats an damage outputs are.

    Again, this works for select builds and I am continuing to try and confirm which builds is optimum for this situation.

    -Versa-
     
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    C I r c u m s t a n c e s **^^
     
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    Winter, I figured the epic battle plunder system was different from that of the old olunder system. Hence why I said this "Dinosaur Mechanic" was rediscovered lol

    -Versa-
     
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    Well I did an escape where I used a bar of spies at the end and got like 500 fangs. Then i did one and used 0 spies and had the same amount of activity if not less of only troops and got over 600
     
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    Well damn wish you would've told me this a long time ago lol not 2hrs before event ended and does bfe acct for this? Because I have about 4mil spy Atk with bfe
     
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    Bobcat, bfe only affect this situation if it makes your spy action damage higher than your troop action damage. You can check these in the battle log and although I don't see it doing much, it has to do something because bfe does increase your overall strength.

    -Versa-
     
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    @Gilga:
    I would say that your findings match exactly what I have seen. Hitters' spies are basically just for cosmetics when it comes to fangs (and... end bonus plunder). If you are a hitter, not using your spies on fast THEs would be a sensible thing to maximize clan profit.

    While neither the OP (Versa), nor me, did uncover the exact mechanism, I have to thank him for launching this interesting discussion. I just wish we had thought about tackling this experiment a bit earlier in the event ;)

    However, not all hope is lost! During Destroyers I found out that the fang drops seem to match closely the pattern of pot drops. Has anyone more data that could confirm this? This could allow us to experiment and try to discover the mechanism even outside of seasonal events...

    Versa and me had an interesting discussion about this fang drop mechanism.
    One finding was: the number of total drops equals the number of drops for attacks only plus the number of drops for spies only. Anyone confirming or contradicting this?

    One question that I had: did anyone ever record any data on Ambush? As everyone does the same amount of damage... I expect data refuting the theory that the drop rate relates to damage done only (could be relative to damage to size ratio?).

    My theory is that the drop rate has simply been related to an already existing mechanism in the game, the most probable being the end bonus plunder one. There might be a normalization regarding size going on (explaining the fang cap drop for zero stats alts...).
     
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    Thank you for fast response it does affect my damage but I won't be running any more ebs lol have to war so too late for me but all others out there go hard
     
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    Why couldn't we make this thread two weekends ago :lol: Kassio and I have separate ideas on how it functions but similar in the sense that is more than just hitting.

    Seriously, any and all data for this promotion on drops would be greatly appreciated so we can develop a formula or something for the next item promotion. If Kass is correct, that means this also takes affect with end plunder bonus and pot drops meaning it has a use outside of the promotion.

    I've talked to UPC briefly about this and feel that there is a lot to be uncovered here but we need your data.

    -Versa-
     
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    Haha Versa, two weeks ago my greed (and expectations) was too big for me to consider sacrifying fangs for science experiments...

    Guess next time we should gather the brainpower of our theorycrafters to do systematic experiments right from the start!
     
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    I have a 6.5m cs hybrid...i am about 2mil att and 1 mil spy... i do about same damage with either...but i am only getting 100-200 fangs per eb...and i am at max plunder
     
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    Akelso, try this method. Tell us what you get :D

    -Versa-
     
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    This sounds great, and I hope it's true.
    Does this also apply by end bonus?
    Your end bonus is hit-Damage ratio?
     
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    8/10 clans will soon start requiring big hitters only hit.
     
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    End bonus if you mean plunder and gold? No, UPC figured out specific end ok bonuses for each eb that is linearly proportional, he made a thread somewhere in the KaW strategy if you want to find it.

    Although this is close to the end plunder system as it has to deal with the end drop system :lol: it appears to not be linear so far though

    -Versa-