King you still mad about bfe? Everyone can obtain it so therefore it is not an exploit, unless you want to call bfa an exploit also. Yeah we run GH with lb players, we have been beaten several times since start of season 1. Also everyone has the opportunity to run GH so you cannot call that an exploit either. What our friendly dev here is referring to is the iFarmers vs Swollen Members matchups, when you play the system at least don't make it obvious. Fight the first 1:30 keep it close them throw the war, not rolling over 3 times in a row.
When will people understand that asking ATA to start counting BFE in wars is a ridiculous suggestion, the common mistake those people make is try and compare BFA and BFE and deem them equal. Yes the stats you gain ARE equal, the difference is BFA can be obtained by spamming exactly 1 button while you are mashing your way through Haunt after Haunt, and if nob or xtal well it comes even faster. BFE on the other hand has to be obtained through 4hour (as it used to be in Estoc Trials) and 2hour wars as it is now, now those wars might be hard or easy for each individual clan BUT they sure as hell are harder and OBVIOUSLY for the winning clans costlier than EB's. Please i urge everyone that has those specific thoughts in mind to think back when Estoc Trials came, and all or MOST of the ppl with sick BFE now, worked their asses through 4 hour wars to get mith, when you sat comfortably in your home clan spamming FODS/HAUNTS/TGLS. Now it sucks doesn't it? People that chose to war sacrificed their growth and their BFA growth so i don't even know why bother explaining the obvious that those people worked the extra mile towards an advantage that will give them an edge in osw's or normal ee wars over people that didnt, that mile was there for everyone to get if you wanted to war and spend 2 xtals per war. Lastly saying that new members have no chance against old schoolers with sick BFE and low cs, well tough life old schoolers deserve the advantage they played and they paid for it, cant really make it clearer so i hope everyone got it through their thick heads.
*sigh* to all the people posting rages about their 'hard earned' equipment not counting you are looking at it in the wrong way. Nobody is saying you can't use the equipment, just that the stats boost it gives you should be counted for the matchup. BFE is worth, what, around 5-20 trillion in allies? If your opposition all had that amount of BFA and it wasn't counted you would be rightly ticked off as it would create a huge imbalance and you would get an unfair match up. BFE does the same thing. Again, no one is saying you can't use it. You earned it and kudos to you. But just because you have it shouldn't mean you have massive mismatches in your favour.
I doubt you are using the full amount of your brain cells if that is the answer on my post, sorry i won't elaborate on the matter any more.
You don't need to elaborate any more Terror. What you're saying is its ok to have an unfair match because you worked hard for your equipment. I understand your point I just disagree with it. People are already dropping out from EE because they can't compete and because the matches are poor. I predict after Rancor you'll see EE die on it's arse as the equipment creates an even bigger imbalance. That means there will be very few clans warring and you'll be left eventually playing by yourself. If that's what you want then more power to you.. I would rather there were lots more clans warring to keep it interesting and to keep matches.
I will make a last attempt to make this clear whether you like it or not, BFE is a cherry on the top of everything else you can do to acquire in the game that improves your kingdom. Did you cry during Estoc Trials that people with Sick BFE from EBs were abusing the matchups?NO, Why didn't you cry back then? Because it is easy to get EB equipment right? Well guess what EE equipment isn't that hard to get either it just requires dedication and its effects shouldn't be diminished because you don't have it and i do. IF you count BFE in matchups then tell me 1 reason that people worked for months to build a strong equipment and didn't just EB their way to a strong BFA like everyone else that did it the easy way and farmed HAUNTS/FODS/TGLS. For the last time YES the reason BFE isn't counted and BFA is counted its because the first is HARDER to obtain than just spamming 1 button. Noone said you can't do both though i know plenty of people with strong BFA and sick BFE, just because you can't/haven't done it it doesnt mean it's not out there. Lastly to address the participation issues etc, No i don't see an issue there, the season is almost over and the participation across the wars is the same as when it started more or less, people will try harder to obtain something worthy than you think..Maybe if you tried the same you wouldn't have to make such posts.
So you want to punish people who have been EE warring since December because people were too lazy/uninterested in warring for the past 6 months? You made the choice to not war, deal with it, don't cry to the devs.
BFE Why is it not counted? Probably the same reason that BFA was not initially counted - misunderstanding of how important that BFE is. When Devs realized BFA matters they made a mistake and treated a percentage difference, which doesn't really work. 300% of 0 is zero. 300% of 100 million is an insurmountable advantage in CS. How people obtained BFE isnt really the issue. Was it exploit, or was it strategy. If EE wars are going to continue (rather than slowly die out), new players need to be given a chance at winning. Today a new clan might try a EE war, find themselves incredibly overmatched and stop warring. The equipment itself is supposed to be the award. It represents an accomplishment. Those of you that expect the equipment to represent an permanent insurmountable advantage in KAW will find it rather lonely at the top I imagine. Enjoy your exploits.
@ ski - Try reading the thread. Perhaps you can have somebody help you with the bigger words as you're obviously struggling so far. @ Terror - Simply having the equipment and the power boost it gives your individual kingdom is the reward you get for the planning, organizing and winning of wars. There is NO good reason I can see why any clan shouldn't be able to come in and war against a clan of EQUAL strength and power to give them a fair match and a decent war. You've already admitted your equipment gives you an advantage so you obviously see that part of the argument.. The rest is just you trying to justify keeping that advantage. It's understandable, but destructive to the game as a whole. You say participation is roughly the same.. I've seen it go down from the start of EE where you would get 80 odd clans warring to today, when we have 30-40 or even less. Also bear in mind that this is the end of the season where the rewards are very big compared to the risks and participation is still declining.. Not a good sign at all. Anyway.. You can lead a horse to water etc.. I'll get back to my EB..
Devs, you've turned EE into a total farce. 20% fail rate in match ups. You're doing it wrong. Tower build exploit BFA exploit BFE exploit Stacked LB GH exploit GH exploit Roll over and play dead exploit Hi team number exploit Err, I mean strategies... Can't really blame the players either. You're inaction in all these cases encourages players to exploit. You think the ongoing flaccid 'warnings' are going to do anything? Get real. Can I suggest you get someone senior start looking that this from a macro level? This has gone well past support droid action.
:lol: Super fast connection while fighting from ko, I get every hit in my newsfeed as its happening. Once I XTAL, KaW basically freezes with the enormous lag. Can't load any profiles, but once I finally get on one, I'm in such a rush I spam the hell out of attack and touch "select all" once. Doesnt register, I fail a hit, I'm caught, I'm shot down. Love it.
Said it weeks and weeks ago: devs are incredibly stupid for implementing a system designed to be abused, and guess what? Gets abused every single war. Reward losers according to individual performance: you perform even if your clan loses, you get Mith. Roll over play dead? Get exactly what you deserve too, nothing. Now we get 13-15 miths for playing dead doggy, what a geat deal! and losers can actually earn some Mith to maybe not let be become the insane obstacle it is now cos it's not factored. Make war sizes uniform and banded: 18-20 for lowest band, 28-30 for next band, make manipulation much more difficult. Why do hansels have such a ridiculous dtw mechanic? Maybe too little too late now, almost no clans outside the few clans war. Participation among clans should have been strongly encouraged from the start, instead the devs have done pretty much everything in the opposite direction (don't quote vanishing paladins please, a joke in every sense). My last post ever here, cos frankly, i'm wasting my time.
@King_ME - Do you just want.us to unequip.during war so it would be fair to those who were sleeping when we were working hard for.all the miths we earned? Sorry it doesnt works tht way.if you have been doing EBs all this time,you should have stacked a lot of money and made towers while we spent all our money in pots for wars. No use of crying in forums about it.
Since this thread is for EE: War 11 here. We want to try a shot at our first lol :? I'm out of speakers so I'm posting Once on this thread.
cheetah EE was a great concept - at the start the wars were really fun. As i see it the problem came about when the reward for winning a war became some great piece of equipment, instead of the sanctification of winning a close fought war. That created the incentive to game the wars; win even though it was boring. Needless to say, that's what happened - many clans formed gaming the system. Unbelievably as it sounds, some clans reduced their CS and BFA just so they would have to match against tough clans. Of course they destroyed the beginners, not only were they experienced, but they started with all the great EB equipment. Then they upgraded to great mith equipment, soon to be great rancor equipment. I completely agree, it does make you wonder why, if war has become a tedious chore where more than half of the wars are blowouts, do people still participate?
The second that the devs made trinkets more important than build and allies, THEY lost the game. DIVYA or whatever your pigsty, untypable name is, your current build/equip combo typifies everything that's currently wrong with the game. Thanks for posting.
High team number exploit? realy OMG that dude drove 48 in a 50mph zone give him a ticket and strip him of his drivers licence lol IDIOTS Rules state 25-50 and i do believe 48 is legal so change rule or shut your idiot trap.