Estoc Trials - Week 6 - War #11/#12 - General Update

Discussion in 'Past Events' started by admin, May 12, 2013.

  1. Can we get the BFA and build numbers for Murder War vs Walor Hellhounds? Quite rediculous from eyeballing it, I will make my own numbers in a minute.
     
  2. Add BFE in your calculations on a side note.  You might be surprised what you find.
     
  3. King_me

    I doubt equip factored in both clans are top competitors and have most mith equip .. They are going to be as close as any clans are.

    They equip wise are a fair match.
     
  4. @kaw admin
    Can I pls get a breakdown of how you matched us for these two wars pls? Our middle guys were failing on their bottom guys. Thank you
     
  5. Yeah king ME I realize that it could make a difference in some matchups but like was said above, we both have good BFE.
     
  6. I think King_Me has a very valid point. There are many people constantly exploiting BFE. You guys tell him he gets no match due to having too many members.. Like he is doing jus to get free mith? Wth! You can't call that an exploit if max number set by KAW isn't even reached.. Also when he broke clans down to get a match and they ended up matching each other it was an exploit... Everything is an exploit... This is total 
     
  7. -–---------------------------------------------------–-------
    WARLOR HELLHOUNDS

    253317000 attack/def
    21035000 spy attack
    65089000 spy defense

    AVG(WHEN FULL): 4,691,000/4,691,000/779,000/2,410,000
    AVG(FROM PIN): 1,172,750/1,172,750/194,750/1,825,750

    OVERALL STAT TOTAL: 339,441,000
    OVERALL STAT FROM PIN: 117,882,000
    STATIC OVERALL (TOWERS):44,037,000
    NON STATIC (NON TOWERS):295,404,000

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    MURDER WAR

    166,080000 attack/def
    52143000 spy attack
    82990000 spy defense

    AVG(WHEN FULL): 3,075,000/3,075,000/1,930,000/3,073,000
    AVG(FROM PIN): 768,000/768,000/482,500/1,625,500

    OVERALL STAT TOTAL: 301,213,000
    OVERALL STAT FROM PIN: 98,388,000
    STATIC OVERALL (TOWERS):30,847,000
    NON STATIC (NON TOWERS): 270,336,000

    -–---------------------------------------------------–------

    COMPARISONS:

    OVERALL STAT: 12.6%, 38,228,000
    OVERALL STAT(PIN): 19.8%, 19,494,000
    STATIC (TOWERS): 42%, 13,190,000
    NON STATIC: 9%, 25,068,000

    ALL IN FAVOR OF WARLOR HELLHOUNDS.
    YOU BE THE JUDGE; THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS

    KEEP IN MIND THEY HAD SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER BFA AS WELL, BUT MANY HAVE ALLIES HIDDEN AND HAVE MORE THAN 20 ALLIES, SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COUNT. ID ESTIMATE A 40-50% BFA ADVANTAGE IN THEIR FAVOR AS WELL.

    CONCLUSION:SPY ATTACK IS SEVERELY OVERRATED CONSIDERING SCOUTS CAN TALE OUT HANSELS QUICKLY, AND THAT SO MANY HABE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SPY TOWERS, HANSELS USUALLY EVEN HAVE TROUBLE ASSASSINATING FROM PIN. THIS BRINGS UP THE FACT THE THE STATIC BONUS FROM SPY TOWERS IS SEVERELY UNDERRATED; IT APPEARS TO BE EQUALLY CONSIDERED WITH OTHER OTHER STATS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO TROOP LEVEL; THIS IS CRAZY BECAUSE FOR THE MAJORITY OF WAR, YOU ARE FIGHTING FROM PIN.

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  8. Under the comparison sections above, all percentages/numbers are differences between murder war and hellhounds. The plus sign doesn't work on forums, but it shows a percent/numerical bonus in each of the categories
     
  9. Before war I posted a feedback request on this match up. Warlor in this watch up was far stronger then murder war.
     
  10. Lol king me insulted me lmao it happened few times with middle earth lmao and cry hahah king u cry when devs don't answer u lol
     
  11. Devs, it's getting better, Week6 War 12, Battlegrounds v _RCA_ was the best war by far all season. It was close, 10b was the max spread at one point in time, all war. A ton of fun. Keep it up, the system is getting there.
     
  12. @kaw_admin - u said SOTRA Bfa was 4x any clans our range; may I ask which clans in war 12 are within our range?
     
  13. Feel better now Tay?
     
  14. The same happened to the war between DRAGONS SANCTUARY and NIGHT"S WATCH, when the top 5 from DS had problem hitting the middle of the opponent's roster from full. Why can't there be a handicap system for the weaker side to add in some strength after the matchup? The uneven matchup has made wars more like gambling on luck.
     
  15. I wonder if one solution to the high percentage of no-matches may be to put in place a 'reserve' system. Have the x number plus 3-5 that can opt in as reserves.

    If there's a no match situation, devs may dip into the reserves to level things up.

    Just a thought on a clearly busted issue.
     
  16. I read a lot about BFE. I agree it is a huge advantage to those who have it. But EB gives also a lot of BFE. Maxed eb equipment would give close to 300mill BFE and with better defensive stats than mith one.

    Even with my good BFE I'd have a lot of trouble hitting an eb'er in war: their defense is better. If you build ur eb BFE you all stand a good chance against war builds... So get to it and come kick us in war!
     
  17. Again, agree wholeheartedly with giskard! 
     
  18. wow so many new clans join rancor!!!