Kaw admin, Can you clarify what you mean by BFA changes. Can you give me an example of what is acceptable and what is not. Everyone banks their gold in allies before the war unless you want to lose 25% right off the bat, so what is OK and what is not. Thanks. Also, do you want us to report when our opponent buys our allies just before the war starts or even during the war? Is this fair in war or not? Is there any other activities that would "not be fair" in this war game? Maybe if we have defined rules or limits on this BFA issue, it may be understood a little better. Thanks.
Yes, we've had match ups. 11/28 sign ups. Not very many match ups, but hey, can't say we haven't tried. :lol:
@kae admin stated a 120% BFA difference is winnable and then says so a 2 to 3x upper hand should not be unsurmountable. It may be the CPA in me but how does a 200% to 300% difference in BFA correlate to 120%. Sounds like fuzzy math to mr
But aren't the worms a "specialized" EE clan mostly GHC that became popular with clans like we're screwed? I feel just as bad as the next person for y'all. So keep up the good work and just upgrade with the trils y'all dropped I would assume.
As stated in this thread by the devs, I am posting to report the Naked and Famous Kings for using the BFA cheat last night for war 4. I had their before and after rank recorded in my tracking spreading. They clearly bought bfa about 1 min before war start. I hope the devs will look into this as it certainly takes away from the spirit of the ESTOC wars.
@Kaw_Admin... Your position on BFA with regards to matchups is frustratingly inconsistent. First you make it clear that BFA is used in the matching algorithm. Then you advise that exploiting by altering BFA post-matchup is cheating (you go so far as to offer to investigate reports of this behavior). When people report legitimate cases of post-matchup BFA exploitation what do you do? You post a thread saying BFA doesn't impact war outcome.... Well, go tell that to the outmatched clans who lost by the slimmest if margins where the BFA difference due to last-minute ally re-acquisition made the critical difference. Either BFA matters and you keep your promise to earnestly investigate legitimate reports of exploits, or BFA doesn't matter and you exclude it as a matching criteria.... But please be consistent!
I'm sorry, but I'm with NaF KiNGS. And I have to post on outlawz comment. I don't like being called out... Specifically for a strategy that we did not use. You stated that you checked our BFA prior to the war and it changed "dramatically" one minute prior to matchup. 1.) most of our clan goes all out on mithril usage, including hiding allies. So how could you have seen that. 2.) you noticed this one minute prior? Are you not prepping for war yourselves... Maybe mistake number one. 3.) I personally go to church on Wednesday nights. So when I am prepping for war during the last 30m prior. Your telling me that it's not ok to buy an ally with 100 b gold I might have out. Or should I have left it on the table to give you an advantage? 3.) I assume that our strategy didn't win us the war either? Considering we KO'ED entire roster and you chose to xtal early.... We won't discuss strategies here. But with all this said.... I guess that the option to buy an ally pre war should not be available as a means to save your gold. I assume you would rather buy 100b worth of bars and lose 30% or whatever of your gold when you try to get your return ? I am not a mean person, not am I not a nice guy... But I hate being called out for a strategy that did not take place
Outlawz before going off half-cocked about us cheating I recommend that you and the team your in learn to properly war. Your 26 successful actions won't win any war medals any time soon. I had never had more fails on me in a war since estocs started. Possibly is was a poor matchup in our favor no arguments there, but don't accuse my clan of cheating when we did no such thing.
Dear Outlawz, I am from NaF Kings and before you make slanderous remarks claiming that we "cheated", maybe it would be wise to know what you are talking about first before making such statements. The Dev's still have not defined what this BFA issue is so how can you claim someone "broke this rule"? Can roster orders change before a war. Absolutely, happens all the time. This does not mean someone "cheated". All we know is that you lost to a stronger team. You had one less kingdom which did not help you. And NaF Kings do not need to cheat to win, nor would we. I am sure if you want a rematch, talk to the dev's and I am sure it can be arranged. There are a lot of wars left to fight and so few clans, so I am sure we will be matched up again. Good luck next time.
We had a guy last week accuse us of cheating. He became clan farm. Seems like a fairly simple solution. We have unresolved anger issues and that seemed to help. Plus good players will try to work on their own team instead of blaming others. We were slaughtered several times and used those losses to get better. We never cried or blamed teams. We gave them props and analyzed how they beat us and got better. If u look outward for fixes u will never improve as a team.
Are you kidding me? Devs would have to LOCK every player in the games ability to purchase allies for a 4 hour span, often times 2-3 times a day.
With all due respect to NaF Kings, I didn’t make the rule, but it is what the devs said and I followed their guidelines which you did not observe putting me at a disadvantage. I personally had 100bil out too like iceman and bought pots so it would not be construed as cheating. I agree with skippers comment above calling out the devs to make it clear exactly what their position is and what are the limits. I sure would love to leave a few hundred bil or a tril out and buy an allie after match up just as we used to buy building upgrades before the devs put a stop to that. I guess we will just have to wait on this one until after the devs investigate to see what they say.
Lol they lock all there abilities to hit its not much harder just adding a couple patches to existing software used yes take time and cash but lets be honest it can be done and not as hard as u make it sound
So what's this all about? Many.clans getting same clan b2b. S.o.t.r.a got sotuw b2b.Ghc syndicate getting Rising hawks b2b and many more. Either we get no matchup or we face the same clan everytime? This is rubbish. Leaving warring if it doesnt changes.