Estoc Trials - Week #2 War #3 - No Match Update

Discussion in 'Past Events' started by admin, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. With reference to the above posts and responses, the query was directed at the match up system. There is no dispute that -RCA- are a great bunch of tough warriors and at no point in the comment was disrespect directed or intended towards these guys. It was a simple request for transparency of the same kind afforded to those who receive this info for no match. This is not an official silver thread as I have already stated its a request for information.
     
  2. Just change your name to kaw_admin_I'm sorry... That's all you ever say! 
     
  3. We have nothing but respect for -RCA- and all the EE war clans. I don't waste my time posting usally, and appreciate the ppl that are supporting us, but we fight whoever the devs match us up with, you can't win ever war, as everyone is different. cheers to RCA for there leadership and strategyThey are a formidable opponent. That being said I think this was a post to the devs for clarity,not a RCA vs. Silver thread. cheers
     
  4. @KaWDeveloperPeople: Lmao 26 signups. Out of the thousands of clans in KaW.. Your little money-maker is going down the drain and will only fall out faster unless you stop being greedy and not only do things for yourselves, but also do nice things for the people you view as piggy banks under your hammer. LISTEN to some of the SUGGESTIONS the KaW community PROVIDES FOR YOU!! they're ideas not only don't sound half bad, but it will also HELP
    YOU OUT in the long run. Stop being greedy and self centered, selfish, and greedy and start thinking about how you would feel if you were us behind our computer screens.
     
  5. Lol oops, i said greedy twice. But I'm guessing that's how everyone feels.
     
  6. There is a reason clan's with lots of towers and huge bfa consistently win EE wars that are supposed to be fair match-ups. Given that most clans use a fairly similar EE strategy, the only reasonable conclusion is that towers and bfa are grossly undervalued in the match-up algorithm (as are guilds).

    In many wars, a slightly weaker clan slightly loses the first exchange, but because the stronger clan starts the second exchange with more troops, the margin of victory is larger as time goes on magnifying a fairly small strength difference.

    To rectify this, I had proposed in another thread given a player slightly more troops as they came out of KO - maybe 1 extra regen immediately upon KO. By doing this the slight advantage of the stronger would not grow as much over time - hopefully making more interesting wars. I am sad to say that while this idea got some support, it was largely ignored :?
     
  7. No match for #4 also.

    This is starting to piss me right the **** off.

    Double out BFA, upgrade. We dropped trills already. Now you think we can somehow HLBC over ******* night? Pffff. EE isn't working, get the idea already. It's the same clans OVER AND OVER again.

    -VAL
     
  8. This will be my only post on this thread
    We _RCA_ invite any investigation into _RCA_ vs Wilders_Chilli match up in war 3 (Week2) and hope the Devs make the findings public the only thing and We're 100% certain they will find is our strategy was better and that no loophole was exploited.

    Happy Kawing
     
  9. @Valor

    The Dev's idea of evenly matched EE wars is a great one: close wars are to me one of the best parts of KAW. It should be the goal of the KAW community to help the Devs create as many even match-ups as possible. It is with that in mind that I started the Silver vs. RCA discussion. The discussion is not about the Silver vs. RCA match-up in particular, rather a process that would repeatedly pair to very unequal clans that I am trying to address.

    Is RCA a good EE clan? Undoubtedly. Did they materially manipulate bfa prior to match-up? A couple of people jumped ranks (which may be what the other clans were experienced and posted), but as I posted originally neither I nor anyone in Silver believes it is practical for RCA to drop and rehire enough allies to affect that match-ups.

    As you pretty much acknowledged in your posts, each time the Devs match RCA to Silver, they have failed to create a balanced match-up: a victory by Silver being so difficult as to warrant a badge. That this match-up occurred several times suggests it is not a one-time glitch, but rather a systemic problem with the matching process. I would again suggest that any algorithm that would consider a RCA v Silver match-up fair and balanced should be reviewed but the process clearly is not.
     
  10. Murder sar thanks for the war we were 2000 ranks before you and yo were number 93 world strongest clan great matchup 