Although I don't support punishing the innocent, I like K-A's thoughts: "Pitchforks and torches". Muahaha…
For people who are wondering what they mean by illegal accounts Here is one example: We have noticed people making new accounts with unexplored land so that they can use the land trick to get free unload during a war then resetting to do it again next war. That kind of thing is a pretty serious exploit of the system and not within the spirit of the rules. Sure it's a loophole but just because it can be done by the letter of the law doesn't mean it's not a serious and intentional violation of the spirit of the law. Luckily, activities like this are pretty easily tracked. So Devs can swing the ban hammer with confidence that the innocent will not be harmed. Hope that helps put people's minds at ease. .
Ok kaw admin you did a really bad job explaining this so I'll go into more details as I have questions that won't make sense with knowing all. Illegal accounts - meaning multiple pc accounts(more than one). Please correct me if I'm wrong. This alone is ban worthy just from TOU stating we are allowed 1 pc account. The major problem isn't people making the "illegal" accounts. The problem is what they do with it. Bare with me here. A brand new account can make enough to lc low lands from just two haunting item phases. Now once this brand new account is lowland complete it has become a wrecking machine for EE. Why or how you may ask... Most are aware of the land trick, for those not: the very first time you build a building on a land you get full troops or spies from it. This only works the first time you build. So what does this mean? Basically I go and start an account, do a couple item phases in haunting, lowland lc, but I don't build any buildings minus the first two from the walk through. Now let's jump into an EE war. I have my 400/400/200/200 account(yay imma beast!...no really I am) once war start I unload my troops and spies, leaving just enough spies to prevent ko. Then I build one guild lvl1 and boom pow!!, full spies again. Then guess what, I empty those spies until close to ko and build one more guild. Boom pow!!! Full spies again! Muahahaha. And I can do this 22 times per 400/400/200/200 account I have. Basically 23 xstals of spy actions. Granted most fail, but that doesn't matter as we already know. That's the real issue here. And I understand very much why the guy from 4s is upset about this. It was warring them that made me realize this exploit. Very clever. Now my question ata is this, you say illegal accounts, but what about legal accounts? I can have 1 pc account, and nothing in TOU or roc says I can't reset that account as rebuild as I see fit. So what's to stop me from using my legal of only account to reset a couple of times a week so I can take advantage of the "land trick"? That's the issue that needs to be addressed, not the "illegal accounts"(though it is against TOU and should be handled).
Ok i understand now... Its fine to have one on iphone and ipod and computer just cant have 2 on 1 device. (Thats why computer acc dont get speakers)
To add real quick, I've said many times. This is a simple game keep it that way. The more you add the easier it becomes to exploit. Wait till Valor comes out, you'll see. And this punishment is a bit unjust ATA. Don't punish masses because of a few. Maybe take their EE and Mithril they received from any wars in which this happened but don't just go screwing your customers for others actions
ATA - I know you won't understand all of this, but I'm going to say it anyway. STOP PLAYING BIG BROTHER. You spend most of your efforts on controlling/fixing/stopping "exploits". Put that effort into making your game more fun, making wars available to more people, making mithril more obtainable, and you won't have to WORRY about exploits. Frankly, this game is just getting boring. No one can EE on your hours, every week. So...we sit, we EB, we sign onto another app or another game that gives more action. Anything that can be done within the realm of game mechanics is simply your players enjoying your game, and testing the waters for how they can enjoy it more. You act like internet police officers with these RIDICULOUS "punishments". You aren't. You are game developers, and you should put more effort into that and less effort into constantly accusing your customers of trying to "cheat" your game. Don't like it? Change the mechanics. Easy. Note: In this exploit, I agree with banning said account IF it is breaking ToU and the multiple account rule, but not punishing the clan for it. It's thanks to this mentality that we've lost system wars (make no mistake...you can say they're still there, but without any payout, there is no reason for them whatsoever). It is now Kingdoms at "EE on Our Schedule Not Yours". You don't seem to realize the atmosphere in your community right now due to all of this. People are leaving...not protesting and whining like has been done in the past. They are genuinely losing INTEREST in your game, and quitting. It's not as fun as it was. The vibe is completely different. The game is completely different. No one has a "final straw" anymore, they are just tired of putting so much work into something that should be fun. Stop taking away the fun. Stop playing bad cop. Remember it's just a GAME. Bring the game back.
Agree with prophet I have three accounts, one per device. If I reset my lame computer account to war every week and use the land trick, are you going to bend me over? And my clan?
Running multiple accounts is not an exploit. It's a clear disadvantage. You cannot run 2 as efficiently as 1 and running 3 or more is just way too much.
I agree with Deadly. Make a list of the cheaters and feed them to the KaWmmunity like you did the ASW.
NOTE TO SELF: NEVER buy anything from here. After all, all your crystals go to waste in EW if you lose all your mithril. I believe there is some clarification needed: - iProphet stated that the problem here is the land trick - Why can't devs remove land trick? It's not *that* helpful anyway... - So, as iProphet stated, what if this happens with a legal account? - Devs only discussed illegal accounts. - Can clanmates be held accountable? - What about the clans that have already done this? Will they face repercussions? - ***Can't some idiot join a successful clan, do this illegal thing, screw the whole clan over and get banned?*** - There are lots of suicidal alt clan-haters. What if some alt got in (somehow), and did this? Is it fair to the clan? Sucks to Regulators if this happened while they are in osw. Devs, what are you doing???? /endrant
Addressing your post, as it was quite well written and summarizes a few other responses as well. We have updated the original post. We are going to remove the mechanics that will ruin the Estoc Trial experience for others. On top of that, I am going to say that if you are a player doing things that are allowed under our Terms of Use, then you have nothing to worry about. The reason why we spend the time stopping these exploits is because in this case, it actually completely ruins the experience of our players who legitimately play this game. The fact that you are pushing back against this so strongly makes me wonder why you are acting in this way. Finally, your comment about "Kingdoms at EE at our Schedule". We made the changes to system wars because of 2 reasons, 1) People that really want to war only do so via OSW 2) Almost all the wars that were System Wars were done in an effort to game the system to produce Mithril. Mithril is a reward for players that REALLY war, not create fake wars that earn them. If you can provide a compelling reason why you still want System Wars the way it was, then yes, we will look at it and put back the features you want so you can continue to enjoy the game, on your schedule.
People probably wouldn't be using 'illegal accounts' (as described by Wulf, at least he could explain this instead of and emo admin post raging without explanation) if they would get IP linked and banned instead of punishing innocent Mercs or casuals whom just join random EE clans whom are newer to the game whom may have 0 clue what you're even talking about. Stop being lazy and maybe do a little digging to punish the rule breakers and not drag people whom may have no clue what's going on into it. It's kinda funny though that in a war game it's ok to have horrible 'random' mismatches/glitches because of programming and not listen to your community but if someone finds a loophole to gain an advantage it's death to all. That being said this 'loophole' seems easy to fix after I got an explanation about it. Don't let new land buildings start with any troops, that should fix the entire problem.