For those of you that are apparently missing Fluffy's point entirely: The EE boosts *PLUNDER* most of a hansels gold earned with attack is allies bonus, we gain nothing plunder wise from EE spell. My first hit in eb is 300k plunder & 30m allies bonus which EE has no effect on. I've tested spies as the spell shows on those and seen no rise in bonus there either. For hansels the rise is a couple of thousand whereas my attack build clannies are gaining mils in plunder each hit on eb :roll:
Switching it to ally plunder couldn't possibly be that difficult could it Kaw ? Why exclude our clan mates because their build differs.
If it was changed to ally bonus, then the percentages would probably have to be lowered. Since when are spies at a disadvantage? Spies have had the upper hand in so many different areas. Why can't we just give it a rest and let attack builds have something?
I can't measure it exactly how much. But, I think I'm making more per hour in Haunting with L1 edge. Maybe, I'm getting more in the reward at the end. Any other spy builds noticing higher rewards after EB's?
High drop rate means nothing to a clan running b2b haunts for gold, as fluffy stated. If we as a clan need haunts to pot up then basically a hansel will slug it out for 4 hours helping their clan win and receive no plunder reward from eb. I've tested my spies, there's no bonus rise there
@jam, I highly doubt the drop rates differ between attack and spies. I got most of my eb items as an attack, the rest with hansel. It didnt seem to boost my chances at all. Plus, like other people have said, the bonus drop percent isnt what people really want. We eant the plunder bonus. Which spies are being denied. Even with the ko actions during the war we dont get their gold. Devs should make it more balanced. Converting to hansel wasnt an easy task, and now the devs are skewing the balance. I ask all spy build players and attack players who believe in a fair game to stand up for this cause. WE WANT A FAIR GAME, NO MORE PUTTING SPIES TO SHAME!
I wasn't talking about the plunder issue, I know that. I was addressing homedawgs comment saying Hansels and attack builds have equal drop rates. Anyways, bars might help you from FoD, and it will help you pot up.
I don't know dawg. Personally, I've seen drops like inferno, equipment, new items, etc. go more towards hansels.
Again.. bars are great but clans entering these wars that can't run b2b item eb or simply need to run haunts to pot up? Please address the issue kaw_admin
Building spy def towers never helped my plunder. I'm pretty sure you can still build att buildings. New eb drop just for spies. A box of tissues
Jam you are missing the entire point and just trying to argue. Not every clan can run back 2 back FOD or higher without having a revolving door. Clans want to run back to back haunts for gold. The increased drop rate is given to all builds. The increased plunder is not. What if spies were the only build to get mith at the end of EE wars? KaW would go crazy and it would ruin it for all the attack builds. Basically what the developers have done to spies by not allowing us the added bonus to plunder
Spies crying about making gold? My how kaw has changed. Hansel have been the big plunder makers for how long now? There will always be someone crying about something not being fair. However, I have noticed a dramatic increase in the amount of bronze bars I'm getting on my hansel compared to prior to EE. Something else I've noticed. Spies/hansel make way more Mithril in the war. It appears that assassinations earn a large number of Mithril than attacking someone does hit for hit. That's not fair for the hitters is it! Boooooo
Mercy - yes I'm making quite a bit more from haunting now as compared to before EE(as hansel). @homedawg(dog) - my hansels get way more drops than my attack builds. It's not even close. It's rare for me not to get a drop on a hansel.
ISS_fluffy write here about spy builds disadv-antsge on plunder, i Dont agree. Spy builds could get money with KO players. Spy builds have many advantages - 1/assassinate (they could destroy stronger enemy troops and spies are killed in one time), 2/ spy builds have bigger chance to stay out if KO. So no need to change it .... their position is different, but not bad
Four points I agree with here: 1) Hansels get WAY more drops than attack or even straight spy builds in EBs. 2) The EE is pretty much worthless to a pure spy as well as a Hansel since their attack is low or zero. 3) change the veil spell to an opt in spell vs opt out. However, let clannies cast it anytime within 6-8 hours before the matchup in case it's an overnight war and people are trying to maximize sleep prior to getting up for it. Kaw shouldn't interfere completely in sleep patterns just to cast a war spell if people are already giving up sleep to war. 4) War roster needs to be fixed for easy finding. It's far easier to scan the plunder totals not in order and see who his being most successful vs you than to track a moving target on the war roster. plus if you pay attention to KO and inc rates in your cc anyway you already should know who is pounding out the plunder- unless your clannies aren't reporting incomings.
perhaps a little late for feedback, but have you considered paying the EE bonus onto the eb bonus and not the build plunder? that way spies and attack builds would be on more equal footing in terms of the monetary bonus from EE. for example with level 3 EE if you made 1b bonus on the EB you would earn an additional 430m with your bonus