Estoc Trials - Estoc's Edge Update - Poll

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Estoc's Edge Change

  • YES - 33% for 48 hours

    Votes: 8 1.7%

  • YES - 20% for 7 days

    Votes: 45 9.5%

  • NO - Keep it as it is

    Votes: 184 38.7%

  • ALTERNATIVE - Give Vanished Paladin EB access to losers

    Votes: 239 50.2%
  • Total voters
    476
Because you are planning to change estoc edge making it give less of a % bonus, you are ruining players builds.

I for starters, decided upon putting 14 LL towers instead of 4 HL knowing that the EE levels would balance out plunder loss.

If this change is implemented, you should give players an opportunity to sell back buildings for greater than 20%, because you are changing the essentials of the game and lowering our plunder.

Devs please don't fix what's not broken.. Leave it as it is.

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Come on devs leave it alone. We already tested for months and season is here, make ur changes next season and leave it. EE bonus and rancor aren't broke so don't try n fix it
 
Lol Willy
Rubbish idea was rubbish from the start.
You are wrong, my point earlier was in reply to Pury. Read it again..

And how does KaW_Admins **** taste?
 
@kaw I'd suggest u talk with me or guys at clans like murder and warlor as well if u want to make tweaks. We all do almost every war and have been for 4 months and can give u better ideas b4 u suggest changes. You can't penalize clans that drop 500-1k xtals a week just to add participation. Feel free to give the losing clans something. That's great. Just don't bite the hands that feed u in the 30 clans that do 8 wars a week and don't want our ee affected.

Btw this isn't broken anyway. I'd be trying to find a way to eliminate no matches by maybe having a 2nd matchmaking period for no match where they need to drop members from clan to make a match. Hiring a guy on war days to pm clan leaders that they need to drop 2 players to get a match will make u way more money than his paycheck would cost. Then have a 2nd matchmaking period to try to get more matches. If still no match so be it but u may get an extra 200 xtals burnt.
 
We pay $$$ for xtal to war.. Reason is to get EE n miths.. Now u developer taking EE away from us? Tats not fair, my time my $$ all down the drain. Please do not do anything to EE.. I FULLY OBJECT tis idea!!!
 
All the alternatives suck. If you feel you must do something, then implement "loser's edge". Let us keep our lvl5 edge, and let losers get 20% or whatever for X amount of time.
 
I VOTE EITHER LEAVE ALONE OR DO AS RUDIMENTARY SAID, LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE. MOST PEOPLE WITH LEVEL 5 HAS EARNED IT DOING PRE WARS, DON'T PUNISH THEM FOR HELPING
 
We can buy xtal to war n earn mith to buy paladin equip ourself. Dun need THOSE FREE rewards. Want to take away something. I suggest u take away rancor!!!
 
kaw_admin said:
Suggestions for giving out Mithril - It's actually pretty complicated to do that, and is not something we can act on. As an alternative to giving out mithril to the losers, we can give them access to the EB so they can "earn" the mithril.
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I actually voted in favor of the VP idea.

kaw_admin said:
Suggestions for levels - It actually really complicates the situation, that's why we went with 1 level. Is this really necessary now that we have Rancor Levels?
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How does it complicate things? We already have levels in place... and Rancor levels do nothing for me right now, only the promise of equipment that will be a little bit better than the Red Paladin set.

I suggest:
- Change EE timer to 7 days - that seems fair considering the shorter wars
- Let losers keep their previous EE level (and reset the timer)
- Give losers one VP eb to make up some of the mith they lost
- Let us keep EE level when jumping clans
- CHANGE NOTHING ELSE ;)

As much as I was very opposed to the OP, let's be honest... the participation in Rancor wars is shockingly low - SOMETHING needs to be done!
 
Rudimentary is right how bout u discuss with us top clans that do just about all 12 wars to see what can be added or taken away we spend real money for this kaw is put on my list of bills to pay don't mess with what we sit here and war to get. Like everyone is saying don't fix what is not broken. Fix the stuff that actually needs to be fixed
 
Absa****inglutely NO SUPPORT here.
Worst idea EVER.

While you are at it why don't you also propose to adjust it so that there are no winners and no loosers ever! Everything is 100% even so that nobody has to ever worry about whining to everybody because they lost. That way we can all just mindlessly KAW away without ever feeling oppressed and inferior, because we are all equal...

STUPID IDEA!!!!!!
 
@ Dev- I vote YES, and FULL SUPPORT for-

1. Lv 1 EE given to losers. And it shouldn't be taken for leaving a clan. I believe it should be an encouragement to war. Make warring more profitable than ebs and more will war.

2. Maybe support - winners also sacrifice a great deal as well. Tearing down eb builds and building war builds , kills plunder -plain and simple. I know the only way I can keep warring this many wars a week is with lv 5 EE keeping me re-potted. I don't want to give it up 
Keep the incentive to win there or you will just create clans who farm EE.

3. Yes, losers should have access to mith. They took the risk to war and sometimes it doesn't work out. They still should be able to get paladin equipment.

Winners should always win more mith, additional plunder and higher rancor awards, or why bother with the effort to win. Don't create situations that are easy to exploit but encourage actual participation.
Consider plunder bonuses % for prestige clans. You want clans to war. Give them a reason too.
 
No support. None at all for the changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game. You will only push people away from these wars by minimizing the incentives to war which required a large sacrifice in plunder to re-vamp their builds to win the wars. Listen to your community and leave the rules in place. YOU made a system of lvl 1to lvl 5 EE now all we ask is that you keep your word. You talk of not liking players who cheat the system but see that YOU are cheating US by changing the rules in the middle of the game. If you want to change this do so after the Rancor Wars are over. So players can chose to buy YOUR crystals and war or go back to doing EB's
 
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