Estoc Trials - Estoc's Edge Update - Poll

Discussion in 'Past Events' started by admin, Apr 10, 2013.

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Estoc's Edge Change

  1. YES - 33% for 48 hours

    8 vote(s)
    1.7%
  2. YES - 20% for 7 days

    45 vote(s)
    9.5%
  3. NO - Keep it as it is

    184 vote(s)
    38.7%
  4. ALTERNATIVE - Give Vanished Paladin EB access to losers

    239 vote(s)
    50.2%
  1. No support what so ever. For the fact I can only war once a week and and need it to get me through the week to buy pots? EE is the only reason I war and its hard enough to get. Should keep it the way it is or improve it furthermore. This is downgrading.
     
  2. I think you should allow the the losers to do the Vanished Paladin.
     
  3. My vote goes for giving losers the new mithril eb. Mithril is the biggest cost of losing a war. Access to the new eb will eliminate almost all the cost of losing. We need more of kaw warring. Thank you for trying to get the eb warriors to scratch up their virgin equipment devs!
     
  4. I'd say option 1 looks the best. Free33% edge even if you only join with the intent of losing
     
  5. my vote went to Alternative.
     
  6. I do not think any of those are good I think there should be 12-24 hours Estoc edge if you participate if you win you get what already happens. However it could be abused so it should be only 25%-35% bonus and if it is obviously being abused by people signing up then sitting there than take it away and give warning and if it happens 3 times ban them from estoc wars. It could be no sign up 12 hours 30 percent. And if then clan loses but really tries than 25-35 but if you are in war and don't do anything than you get nothing.
     
  7. I absolutely love your idea about giving this new EE to losing clans.

    I'm gonna sign my clan up, fill whatever I need with alts, get everyone to park their gold and go take a nap/walk/watch a movie/anything but war. Ideally we'd get matched with another clan thinking the same thing, so no one suffers any loss at all, but hell, we get a top notch clan? Well, worry not! We won't be watching ourselves get pummelled anyway, will be busy doing other stuff.

    Come back in 2 hours and get some free mith, yay! What a sweet deal, no pressure to perform or not perform, since I will get the same crap as anyone else in my clan who loses.

    Devs, you still haven't come out to state what your opposition is to awarding miths to individual losing participants based on contribution?

    You already have the formula for awarding winners, surely it's not hard to work that out for losers, and apply a penalty?

    I know there are arguments against awarding losers anything based on principle, but the world manages to go along only when principles are loosened when necessary to meet certain objectives.

    Leave EE as it, leave RR as is, leave that horrible no match EB as it is, start awarding losing individuals (losing individuals get rewarded based on performance, but clan doesn't, only winners get that from EE etc) miths.

    You think any of the many bigger clans give a crap about earning 15 mith from some stupid EB? They're more worried about getting beat up and coming away with nothing, hence they just stay away. And let's face it, we all know who the beaters and beat up are.

    No one's in a hurry to join the fray to get beat up, nothing in it for them, except the challenge of being humiliated, and getting nothing they could use to close the gap further on opponents whose equipment keeps putting further distance bewteen them.

    So devs, why not?
     
  8. keep it as it is just make it that when u leave the clan that you war in you will loose one estoc.also add the bonus epic for the loosers so they can replenish mith.also u should have the mith epic before war.it wont affect troops but gives u a chance to gain mith before war.mith are costly and smaller guys find it hard to war because of the cost.
     
  9. Just an update for non-pc users.
    Option 1: YES - 33% for 48 hours
    Votes: 6
    Percent 1%

    Option 2: YES - 20% for 7 days
    Votes: 38
    Percent: 9%

    Option 3: NO - Keep it as it is
    Votes: 168
    Percent: 39%

    Option 4: ALTERNATIVE - Give Vanished Paladin EB access to losers
    Votes: 223
    Percent: 51%
     
  10. Go number 4 mith cost a lot doing all these EE wars is costing me a fortune. Having the ability to make a little back would be awesome.
     
  11. Feel disrespected to have earned level 5 and come here to see this. Keep it as it is.
     
  12. Alternative option doesn't say you will be losing your EE level, it says it will give people who are losing an opportunity to get back their mith
     
  13. No Support.. Give the loser a lvl1 EE and keep the rest the way it is. Peeps have sacrificed they're builds too much already
     
  14. No no no no no this is a terrible idea please don't change it
     
  15. Can we keep it the way it is with 5 levels perhaps forgetting about the where you lose a level when leaving a clan and then cut the time that each level of the spell lasts
     
  16. So many talking about "butthurt" players that can't win a war....
    It's not about the losing part, it's about the effort everyone's puts in and losing so much $ and mith when ppl get matched with bigger and/or tougher clans....
    Be grateful and don't dis the fact the devs are trying to make it more fail for ALL kaw members and not just those that "change their build" just to win wars....
    Winners are still getting better incentives, but be sports about this, and let them give incentives for all participating, cause 90% of us put a lot of work and waste a lot ... Whether we win or lose
     
  17. Dev's

    Keep it simple. Just reduce the price of Mith to 300K again. You can only buy it in small quantities so you can war, no more bulk buys, so why not? Make the entry to warring less expensive and less costly to lose. Unless there is a reason why you want to keep the cost of Mith so high??????

    Give the losing team the mith eb if you want to soften the blow of losing.
     
  18. YES I agree lower mith prices,u guys want more ppl warring and buying xtalls. This way more ppl will war, I vote no EE change, I spent over $100 in xtalls atleast to get my EE