Estoc Trials - Estoc's Edge Update - Poll

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Estoc's Edge Change

  • YES - 33% for 48 hours

    Votes: 8 1.7%

  • YES - 20% for 7 days

    Votes: 45 9.5%

  • NO - Keep it as it is

    Votes: 184 38.7%

  • ALTERNATIVE - Give Vanished Paladin EB access to losers

    Votes: 239 50.2%
  • Total voters
    476
Why do you devs always keep chaining stuff in the middle of something? This is the middle of the tourney, you cant keep changing the rules every other day, and war times every other day because a few people complain. Take notes, for season 2, etc, but to keep "trialling" the system with us as Guinea pigs is crap. The rules, matches, times, should have been set and locked once the season started. Some could argue your trying to favor certain clans that are not doing well. Leave the crap as it is, learn from the flaws, analyze the data and we all win in season 2. Quit jerking people around who have been dealing with this for months already.
 
This is total crap. I paid real money to earn my edge. Changing the rules mid tournament sucks so much. How about we flip a coin and both people win. I am furious that this could even be considered. I want a two hundred dollar refund. Real wars are not won by both sides and this was supposed to be a simulation of war. Why can't you leave well enough alone? What in the hell is wrong with the world today that losers have to win therefore wining is moot. You just jumped the shark. I could not possibly be more devastated. Epics promote disloyalty and the edge fixed that. 
 
This is ridiculous no support for changing EE levels, at all not even for the losers. Let them play the VP eb To earn back the mith lost. Also to address losing edge when leaving a clan, it should be the other way around with an exception. I've seen a few clans mine included that has a war clan and an eb clan. So to help keep clan loyalty there should be a way to say link them so that traveling between the two you keep your edge. That brings up y I say u should keep when leaving. instead u should lose it when joining a non affiliated clan. Does that make sense? I hope so. Now for the rancor lvls(RL) being the reason for war. This may be what you think everyone is waring for but it's not. Because not every player is going to have maxed out RL at the end of the season only a few will. So why would a smaller player as my self get all worked up about it? What I am worked up about is the edge it is keeping me potted for war and a bit more so I can continue building or buying allies to get better at war.
But hey that's just my thoughts on it excuse the grammar, punctuation, and spelling. It's late and I've been staring at my phone too long to care about it
 
Changing the rules of a tournament that has already started is so wrong that it can not be put to words. So the winners lose? We spent money on our builds. Then spent more money changing them. Plus more money to win the edge. Basically this goes against all fairness and is stealing. You are considering stealing from your best customers. Go run a bank! And stay the hell away from war games.
 
These proposed changes Back to Back to Back, at this late stage are all terrible ideas. I'd actually like to know WHY all of a sudden KAW admin is proposing them, now, and they should be honest about that.

The very idea that your all of a sudden worried about a market adjustment in EB pay out to EE war clans...the Idea of removing most of the strategy from matching, not once...but making 2 separate attempts to convince the community that a structure where the BIGGEST clan by stats ALWAYS has the advantage...that limits the # of opponents each clan will face...even more so then now...rank 1, will fight rank 2....over and over and over. There is some sort of pressure to CHANGE the system, that the EE war clan community has been just fine with, and has been tweaked trough all the trial wars for months, that is causing you to make these suggestions NOW?!?

KaW Admin, you have been ADAMANTLY opposed to rewards to the losing side for months now, and actually against any change that has a high risk of exploit. I would venture to say that awards to BOTH sides of a war is easily exploitable, especially at the very high levels of stats/BFA.

All options are incredibly exploitable giving free Myth and worse, a plunder bonus just to sign up for a war? Then at the same time reducing the plunder bonus to winning clans... Your begging someone to create 2 huge Stacked clans that will war each other over and over. Think about what could happen in a war? clans will sign up not to win, it's a 33% bonus to plunder just to get a match or a Myth payout...12 myth...12 times a week...144 myth a week...and they DON'T have to war? What about the clans who built for war? All of the LOST trillions in pots, the Trillions on lost plunder due to towers...that isn't worth ANYTHING?

I can't help but keep wondering WHY? WHY now? For WHAT reason? WHO would most benefit from these changes? Not my clan, or any EE war clan that has been doing these wars....so why even propose it now?
 
Take away % bonus of edge I vote NO The majority of the participating clans uphold the EE warring community and should not be punished for a small portion of clans that will give up after a week of getting beat. Tweaks to system should be made in the 15 weeks pre season EE wars that went on not in the midst of season 1. NO NO NO on all changes Just keep giving feedback to clans with no matches and losers step up your game and win a war then u will enjoy your edge and mith.
 
Is the changes because 30 (maybe less just looked for spells active) of the top 50 on LB are not participating ?????? Hmmmm interesting .........
 
I still dont get why you have a poll that idevice users cant use. :| well anyways...

What this seems like to me.
Another way to make us war more often, spending more money, for less reward.
Option 1, 33% bonus plunder for 48 hours. Umm no. This would make people war at least every 2 days just to keep a bonus that can just as easily go away as you can earn it. No support.
Option 2. This seems like a more viable option to me, but still pointless. I like that you can leave the clan with both of these options, but thats about all. This option cuts the bonus down even more, making these wars lose incentive for the players. Both options would probably decrease overall participation in these wars.
Option3. This is an alright idea, and I believe it could help these wars a lot. A lot of people are unwilling to take the chance to earn mith in these wars, this seems like a feasible option to raise participation.

But, before you change ANYTHING, you should move forward with a war crystal system. I like these wars, I really do, but they're not worth paying money on to play them, and if you went through with wither options 1 or 2, I think many people will think the same.
 
Yes. Award loser EB to have their mithril cover because very expensive. No mithril can not go war so every week the same clan war only.
 
KEEP AS IS, but if u absolutely must, maybe option 3, not that I believe it's a good idea, if you make it too easy to lose, all that will play will be the losers.
 
I still think Estocs Edge level 5 is the top reward there is. You have to be a damn good clan to get it and then to keep it is even harder (I lost mine courtesy of We're Screwed. Great war guys).

Let losing clans do the vanished paladin eb and maybe give them a poor mans version of Estocs Edge if they still need incentive. Estocs Edge - Participation. Level 0 essentially at 10%
 
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