Twinky. Compare how much you make per xtal usage to another build bigger and smaller. You all spend the same ( and I have stated the gold is an advantage they already have ) and yet all will get different amounts of gold in return for their offloads. Event prizes should be action based to allow all entering and paying to compete have equal chance to compete for rewards. Otherwise all smalls may as well just boycott the events and spend their money elswhere. Something I would rather not see. But that already is happening. And yes companies offer long term bonuses. That's the gold difference. It should not apply to what are essentially competitions within a game.
The lb deserve to win the top overall of KaW prizes. They have earned it through hard work and experience. Everyone else can still have a chance at Winning the prize for 5k elixir. It's like in any race. Say you start running races. I just started and can barely run a mile. And then there's some other guy (or girl) who has trained their whole life to run these races. Everyone has the chance to win this race. But i, being a newly or someone who has trained as long or as much, will have to work harder to make it to the top. Another apology could be the workplace. There is a job opening for CEO. I started working a week ago. My co worker has worked there 10 years has lots of experience and is good at the job because of it. Everyone has a shot, but he is going to have a much better chance of reaching the top because he earns more, has worked longer and has earned the right to be at the top. There are plenty other anologies that could be used. Overall my opinion is that if someone has worked long and hard to be on lb. they earned the right to be top of comps. There are still many many many players who aren't bc who are able to compete well with top Lb.
I guess some people aren't happy no matter what happens. "You get free stuff!" Oh, but I'm not getting the MOST free stuff, so therefor I'm going to complain about it. *sigh* Why can't we be happy with what we get?
You get paid to play kaw? Or are you a paying customer that expects value for purchase. The lb will outspend everyone anyway so they will get higher rewards through buying more xtals and nobs. 1 reward token per 1 action just makes it more transparent what you have to spend to get to where on the reward list and helps players govern their spending / activity to obtain their rewards. Far too much admiration in competition for lb. I'm sure they shop around for best deals when making purchases as well. But we have a reverse economy at work where a smaller player would have to spend substantially more real cash to get on the same reward level as an lb player. It's crazy logic people apply here. Give them a free ride for playing longer when they spend the same money per purchase. But we can keep that system and watch people's spending reduce as they realise the money they waste. Who wants fair competitions in an app anyway. Pretty sure ata's earnings would increase and player base would grow sustaining game for longer if people saw that they got value for money, but .......
1) Can we say it any more? You're getting free stuff. Stop complaining. 2) Are you an actuary? Is it your job to make ATA money? If you replied no to #2, then please realize that ATA employs people whose JOB is to make them money. I'm fairly certain they've given a little thought as to how the money-making process works. Don't say you're "pretty sure". Also, in the end, it doesn't really matter what any of our opinions are. They made it this way. *puts on sunglasses* Deal with it.
Hes not talking about "free stuff". The point he is arguing is about the comparison between larger builds to smaller builds earning value from spending real money.
Issue though is that even if a small none build complete player got top 100 imagine the amount of spending. I have an account specifically used for events (look up omnLpotent) top 100 banner cost nearly $200. My top 100 equip roughly $150 and top 500 stuff about $100. If a new player is willing to drop that much cash then I believe they should get those rewards. Because imo that's hard earned and hard spent.
Since we are so in this analogy thing, let's use the analogy of investments. You invest more (time or money) in the game, you get more out of it. You invest more in a company , the more profits you get when the company profits. Or why not a exclusive club giveaway where they give more to long time members?
This seems to have been out of proportion... The whole deal is a small build gets less elixir than a bc build. There is a plunder cap anyway so no matter what your size is you can only reach a certain limit of elixir through xstals anyway. And the difference in elixir per cs is minimal anyway. Hitting hte drops roughly the same amount of elixir to each build per unload no matter how big. You can change that by sealing or xstalling.. Whoever spends more wins more. Pvp is a different story. In the pvp event big builds make far more shackles than small builds. There is a significant difference there that couldddd actually effect the leaderboard a lot. If you have to argue about it argue about that atleast. My opinion still stands though on the original topic
@ tfs As twinkly said. I am arguing about real expenses. Not free event rewards. I am saying that paying customers have a right to expect value for money. Those saying invest time and money. You are not share holders, you are customers that all deserve equal treatment. It's amazing people argue against value value for money and equal treatment in events. Older players or higher spending ones get the highest gold returns. Best choice in allies and the best awards in events. Even if a small player puts in the exact same amount as money and time as the larger build they have no chance under current system to win an event. Cost for cost real money the events are uneven. Go and look at coc. Buy elixar, gems etc, big or small build and you get the same amount for the real expense. But telling smalls they are only allowed half te value for the same expense is damn poor business sense
Chaos proportional to your build its equal. You get the same amount proportional to your build. Not sure how else I can say it or elaborate. That's about it.
Stop whining about the events. If you don't like the return you get for your money, then don't spend it. You either spend the hard time building up, (I did it f2p for over 2 years), or you spend money. If you spend when you are small, it won't do nearly as much as if you were to soend after you had become big. I guaruntee all of the leaderboard players spent money on this game when they were small, and things went the same way. An xtal will always net more items, gold, etc for a bigger build because thats how the formula works. Filling the forums with your pity party cry session is only making you look foolish. ️
I should say face-palm at some of those responses. Pity party yada yada crying over gold. Wow you read my argument so well. Not. Now about looking foolish. Telling someone they aren't allowed to debate in a forum is foolish. And I can say with utmost certainty that when this game started , no one was wasting money on event rewards. Because events had not been introduced then. But keep crying bigs deserve everything for free ( or substantially less real cost than other players ) and complaining about the players that suggest that one action should = one event token. And as just stated ( thank you) . Spending while small is a waste of time. So smalls do two years of free to play before buying xtals to support the game or take part in events to ensure you are getting value for money. Ignore all spending until such time it's not worth it. Not my words. That's from those advocating that bigs should get the prizes.
Debate? Sure you can debate. But debates have a final outcome. I still am confused as to how you think that by equalizing the payout is the right thing to do. I read your argument and deemed it silly. You cannot reasonably expect the payout for someone who has spent multiple years and hundreds of dollars (or euros) more on fhis game to earn the same amount as someone who started the game 2 days ago and needs pots to hit warbeasts. Nowhere, at least that I have seen, was the event said to be for everyone. It never said anywhere that they would alter the formula they have had in place since the creation of epic battles to appeal to smaller players, who want 40,000 bronze bars with 100k combined stats. That's not how the world works, and it's not how the game works. Someone said that we are not investors, we are customers, and all customers deserve equal treatment. Unfortunately, both of those points are wrong, we are investors AND customers. We purschase, (hence the customer part), crystals, nobility, etc, and by doing so, we are INVESTING in our own growth and in-game success. Secondly, valued customers will always, (in any sound business practice), get preferencencial treatment. KaW is a business first, and then a game. Think before you post.
Your argument only works in relationship to gold. In events which are short term LIMITED opportunities to acquire special event only equipment. Then if you are going to tell all new customers that they may not compete in that event and purchase the exact same product as a pre existing customer, then you may as well close your business doors. Again you are saying here is a television you may have it for 200 dollars. Oh but not you sir. You have not walked into this shop for long enough to buy our products during limited time offers. Big builds get the gold advantage. If two players lets say a plus z spend $250 dollars during this limited time promo you are saying player z gets the reward because he was the highest spending player who attained the most from his size. Player a's spending during the event his attempt to purchase the limited time equipment is void and he may only have something halfway decent as he is new. Why should player a ever spend again. Much less why would any player other than lb enter and spend on any event. Much like why would any customer buy a television that's on sale if they are told they haven't shopped there in the past. Promos are designed to attract new customers spending. By being elitist you are telling customers their money is not good enough for you and to shop elsewhere. The highest spender will win first prize. But what is really wrong with telling customers their money is equal when it comes to purchasing equipment in the game and that they are paying for a set amount of reward tokens with each purchase. Ie 1 token per attack assa and steal? Ignore the gold nonsense. This is about event reward tokens. And if promos are designed to encourage spending then how do you do that whispt saying your money is worth half of what their money is. Look at other apps, equal purchases result in better consistent sales. That much is clear. People want to know they will get fair value for their real life expense.