Criminals

The fact that you contemplate someone being angry at another as a reason to kill them scares me.

 

Your debate thread doesn't scare me. Your ideas do. You argue a murderer being angry at their victims should give them a lesser jail time. Angriness should not even be close to a reason to exonerate someone. If you truly believe what you are saying on this thread, you scare me. And what little faith I had in the human race is gone because of people like you.

 

He/she just explained him/herself. Learn to read. If you truly believe that it's okay to murder someone and get away with it because you are mad, then you should probably rethink your beliefs

 

Josh being " angry " is not a reason to commit a crime. If you can't control your anger then you commit a crime you deserve full punishment. Being annoyed isn't a justification.

 

I understand, but I think you're overlooking the fact that it's an emotionally charged issue.

It's easier to favor leniency when it's a stranger that's been killed than when it's someone you know. Personally, if you knowingly and purposely kill someone I care about, I want you dead. Fact is, most people in the U.S. favor the death penalty.



Keep in mind, there's no credible evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent to murder. In fact, most criminologists think it's not an effective deterrent. But it's not about deterrence for me. It's about justice for the victims.

However, as I've said, I do have problems with the way it's applied.

I also have serious issues with how it's carried out. It simply astounds me that with all the technology we have it can take two hours to kill someone using lethal injection. I'm not a sadist and I think it demeans us when we knowingly make the condemned suffer. Yeah, I know, they rarely cared about the suffering of their victims, but that's not the point. We're supposed to be better than the scum bags. You don't torture a mad dog. You put it down quickly and efficiently.

Anyway, I understand your points and they have some validity. There are 18 states that have no death penalty. And as the chart shows, opinions vary over time. But the reality is at this point in time, most people disagree with you. So you're going to catch a lot of flak for your opinions.

Don't let it bother you. It's good for society to have different opinions about things. Just remember not to become stuck to a particular dogma. It's also healthy to question your own beliefs from time to time.

"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence" - Charles Bukowski

 

So you want the guillotine?

 

You kill someone, you're punished. Killing is against the law unless you have a logical reason. Being mad because someone stole your pencil is not a reason to shoot them.

 

So you're saying me having my cat is more important than that persons life

 

Uh, the cat is still alive. Does it matter who it's with?

 

In the statement you made, yes. You implicated the cat was under no abuse or negative impact in any way. But still, you justified that cat being a reason to kill someone.

 

Uh, a cat being traumatized is hardly comparable to murder

 

You've got to be kidding me. You stole my cat so I should shoot you? Why would anybody shoot someone over that? If something like that happens (now lets be honest, who steals a cat?) people call the police and report a theft. Police solve it, problem solved.