The sadest thing about this is it's a clan that is warring against itself The reason is not pointless But it should not happen, ever Ever
Noob question: are order of salvation and order of shadows like allies? Same fing? Idk. Cos i warred one but i cant remember which.
I don't agree with OP's version, Reasons: I Know all what all happenned and I can explain why crackdown hit OoS: 1. I was cheese's friend since their fist real war, and I've been there many times for epics, We have made and alliance. I respected Cheese and OoS I also joined order of shadow's osw vs Team Taylor and Phoenix. After that osw, cheese said good bye and quite kaw. I was in his pal chat and witnessed what he said it's for his RL. He gave ownership to Spank. saying quitting but it's funny that he always lurked, joined in epics and didn't say anything, even not a "hi". Acted strangely and I even suspected his acc was hacked. The CC turned into silence, noone said anything bcos they cheese was so scary. PPL wonder what happenned to him. Members even not show up for epic, that was really discouraging. Cheese was kicked base on council's agreement. Bcos after kicked cheese, all members still there and all wanted to grow the clan. Now they started to put all mistake on Spank which isn't correct, they all blame Spank but they all agreed when cheese should have been kicked. 2. Afther that order of shadow wasn't active enough, they just recoverd after osw. Ppl need to recover too, and many big members went out to hit big epics for items or for fast haunting after their time lost. 3 Spank and all the admins had a plan to rebuild OOS and recruiting, with really nice clan page and ads. I totally supported the rebuild of OOS. 4. Lacking of active and big stats, epic failed and members started to leave and more epics failed and no reward given. Not new members joining. Spank was trying in vain for few weeks. 5. Then I offered Oos to join crackdown to make a bigger family that can deal with epic or stay until they grown then come back to OOS. 6. Spank agreed and asked members to move to crackdown, Count joined too and all the merge seemed went well. I told everyone forgot the past and time to move on and grow. But of course not all members wanted to merge bcos they want to stay on their own which is understandable. It's then born the clan order of Salvation. 7. But Fishblackandwhite appreared and start to disturb the merging and posted rude comment on CD's recruitng threat. 8. Fish got hit for dispecting CD and he came in CD cc to apology and ask for CF. I'm friend with owner of Order of Salvation and we agreed to CF on fish. 9. You all said loyal to Cheese, but you were there to help on osw vs Team Taylor and Phoenix, why you spoke out loud now? 10. The old clan OoS wasn' effective bcos they all left , if you care for that clan, why you didn't come to support it earlier? Disbanding that clan wasn't Spank's decision alone. He wanted to keep it, it was still continue to hit small ebs for low stats members and alts, until we got mad of Fish's harassement. Clan order of Salvation has put Spank and Panda's name on their clan page as an insult. 11. Spank was asked to disband that clan by CD council, we thought it's time to end all the drama. Then Mogthemighty hit Spank, what's for ? and Spank didn't whine as you said, he reported in CC for the inc hits from Mogthemighty. It's 4 hits, yes but it's not simply hits, it's an insult and violation of CF that we agreed with Order of salvation that we wouldn't hit them. And Mog shouldn't use such an agressive against Spank. As for RockingRoach, you didn't live what Spank had, kicking a friend out of clan wasn't an easy decision and Spank ddn't do it alone. Cheese has lost the track and had no interest in playing kaw as a normal player would, he haunted CC and acted in a very weird ways, he wasn't the same. Kicking cheese out at that moment was to avoid conflict with others clan and let OoS members relax and focus on growing. Spank was cheese's follower for long time he has no reason to do whatever harm cheese. He was loyal to cheese and to Order of shadow. What he have done is based on each situation and he did what he must, not what he wanted. Yes fighting against ex clan mates isn't cool. But Mog could do it, what's shame! You just couldn't talk? Who is the heartless one? FYI: CD won't run and never wil lol, how that idea come to you? :shock: We merge with our alliance; Death Penalty clan and yes they have a lot of barcodes, why all barcodes are called mercs? :shock: really funny idea. I think not many ppl wanted this war happen, but it's a must. Mog hit spank for disabnding old OoS? You all left OoS and noone even cared for it! Who give him the right to hit a crackdown member? Spank is in our house, he's our family and he's protected. Spank just wanted to leave all the drama of the past behind and move on, but you didn't let him go. You digged Cheese's tomb and put his dead body up for make a fight with us. Too bad, you said you loved him but didn't leave he rest in peace.
Clans brake up, live with it move on. PM friends, do whatever but eventually all clans will not last. War is pointless
I dont get why clans have these 'councils'. By making a council your just controlling what people do. It's a game, make friends and have fun. You don't need a government lol.
Add to my post was a bit long, I would like to say: Cheese was my friend, we're also close friends, I would stand up for him as I always did. I really like him, he was smart and funny. When he left the game I was really sad, hoping it was just a break, until i saw what happenned to him. He changed completly as if he was someone else. He even didn't feel sorry for Kayla ( his best friend) which was got injured at doing some sport in her RL Spank is my friend before i know Cheese, it was spank linked me to Cheese but i like them both equally, and I really appreciated our friendship. I was sending CD members to support OoS after osw to rebuild clan. Seeing OoS broken out and ex mates fight against each other broke my heart. The reason you fight this war for Cheese isn't a right call, if Cheese is a good guy, if still playing, he would never wanted this happen, don't use him as for a bad purpose. Or he's complely an evil that making his brothoers spead out their blood for his joke and happily laughing behind the PC screen. Or it's fishblackanhwhite using you to do his dirty job by saying ; "for Cheese, for Oos"! You know what, when Spank kicked cheese out nobody did anything right away against Spank? Why OoS still support Spank? Only until Spank wanted to merge, you did react? Your reactions were really few months too late! We don't farm if ppl hit us only few hits from battle list, if a complety a stranger hit us, it's ok, we just return hits. But the hits from Mog wasn't a coincidence, it's on purpose and it won't be acceptable. If we let it go, tomorrow he come back and hit another 4 hits that called " under 5 hits isn"t a farm!". That's is a NO NO! Even ONE hit meant a lot! You really hurt your own mates by that hit and Spank have never touched you. Not letting alone Spank and Panda were farmed by some guys from various clans for no reason and we asked Spank just forget those hit. When we asked them why they farmed Spank and Panda, they told us they were asked to do so but they didn't say who was hidding behind all that. You have the courage, you fight, show up and earn respected! Don't ask others to do the dirty job for you.
Saying you stand up for cheese now is a lie. Look at his wall. Your member was screwing with him. He checks in once in awhile and responded to that. Yet you fight his clan Wayne. We are the same. The clan had issues and broke apart. Half became us half went to cd No matter how you view it Angie. I can't read all those words. It's not easy on this screen. But it was your fault. Cd protects against 4 hits??? If so you'd be in an osw all the time. Even a clan as yours can't say 4 hits is farming. Were fighting this because of the ex oos members at cd. Their our main targets. They don't deserve to call them selves oos any longer You say fish started? He's here all the time. He's got full member rights an I personally would gladly farm anyone who causes him trouble I can't respond to much more. Couldn't read it. But you should control your members. Don't have several threads. This being the longer and better written should be the main thread. Request a lock on the other and show that you at least respect the forums
Let me ask a serious question Angie. Let's say a new cd comes. Maybe -crackdown- An then the members split up and go separate ways. In new cd let's say your co owner has it and he disbands. Which is why you made new cd. Would you hit them? I would in my case. Much more then 4. I still use Alts to farm a guy from over a year ago for this. He's long inactive and his friends have started several fights while he was active but thats what I do Why should mog hitting spank be any different Oos became weak because all the big hitters who left did so at cheeses request. To come to new clan or away from spank. Which is why it failed What cf. I was admin for days in oos at beginning till another osw called me away. I know of no such cf. I know we all said we'd ignore spank. But if it's 4 hits even if we HAD a cf with you. It in no way would break it Spank didnt whine? You post Inc in cc if your in osw, if it's farming from multiple players (gangbang. Always involve clan to even group. Not whining but close). 4 hits by one player. That isn't cc worthy unless your whining. I dont post Inc in cc unless in osw it I am under orders to. Even if I have hundreds. So compared to some. Spank was whining like a baby. But if it was 5 then maybe you could say it was slightly justified You back up oos against tt. Great. So did lots of us. I'm not certain but I think fish did too. So you know. He's not some random guy Roach is the one who agreed to post thread. Why. Because I can't edit so I didn't want to. And fish was ofline. He's not always here but he's definatly a friend to oos Your friends with oos current owner? Count and heavy. Why would you osw your "friends". Maybe their on your friends list but hey. That doesn't mean much. When spank responds since he's the one most heavily involved then your story may have somewhat of a backbone. Until then it's an outsider. I stayed in oos until right before the merge idea. New oos had been made a few days before. You lie when saying we made after the merge or disband. I saw spanks leadership. He had been a normal player and went to eratic and desprate measures. Continually trying to win us over to support him not cheese. So those barcodes aren't mercs? What are odds of 10 similar name similar build pure spies all from same clan coming to you guys in middle of osw? Not likely. Will they be there after this war? Not likely Anymore false claims you want to throw at me.
Also. Cheese was kicked. A day later spank goes into cc and explains why then says people are free to leave. I happened to be sick that day. Meaning a full day of kaw and I saw. Straight through. Cheese kicked till the cc time No vote. At all. Maybe spank and panda voted. But all us members/ admins who didn't follow spank completely. No choice. So don't say we voted. We didn't. The proof is that two oos admins left within days to make new oos. so don't say what you don't know about
I no more stand for Cheese and he started up this mess. 1. Said quite kaw but lied but keep haunting members and started whinning to everyone that Spank has stole his clan?! 2. Gave ownership to Spank as his brother in arm then turned his back against Spank and asked all big hitter left? Why? Spank didn't manage the clan as the same way Cheese did, Spank is a warrior, he may doesn't know how to fill your brain with Cheese's lessons, and he was one of the bravest OoS fighter, in real war or in osw. While Spank planed to rebuild the clan he's always the one that stay on top 5 plunder on each epic. It was you guys didn't respect Cheese's will to give the ownership to Spank. Must be the the jealousy? 3. LOL, you hit CD because we have ex OoS members in my clan? That's funny, other guys go in other clan and you would hit them too? Why just target ppl in my clan? They have no right to leave a clan that failed epics? It was you guys left OoS first. NLgirl didn't do anything wrong to you, also Ted, he just left old OoS and want to started a new kaw life that's all as almost of you guy did. And they are in my clan, declared to be perm members, they are protected! Hit us and you'll pay! Oh yes, of course, spank and Panda had removed OoS tag, you see it yet, it has been a while ago already, lol. maybe Uncle Ted will change name soon, to barcode, lmao, he need nob points ( for your information) You didn't have OoS tag neither you must be very proud! Fish is member? This is very new lol, he even clained ownership of OoS Soon he will ask Candy or heavy hitter give the clan Order of Salvation to him. Why I have to lie, I have nothing to lie, lol. Oh yes, i might said it wrong when i said OoS merged with CD , ok, this isn't a merge of OoS with CD. It just some guys joined CD. SO what? Till when you let this drama die down? In addition, since the osw start I didn't see Candy or HeavyHitter ( currents onwers) active? They are happily go on vacation and let you guys fighting to protecting something like " rememberance of Cheese". What said have been said, no need to repeat. What's done have been done! Respect people choice and move on!
I think I speak for all of KAW when i say: Holy **** you all talk too much and none of it is worth hearing Nobody cares about your stupid ****. This doesn't need a forum thread. take it to another app to argue and bore each other with your inane drama
Angie thanks for shedding new light on this. I always figured that there was a logical reason for spanks actions. I still support cheese though because I didn't witness this "weirdness". From the first time I saw him in forums to the last it seemed the same. Call the war off already. It helps nobody. Oos members I feel bad for what happened but don't hate. Rebuild. When cheese checks in every once in a while, show him something to be proud of.
First off. Public. Go away. Angie. I sat in clan with spank and cheese while cheese was leaving. No weirdness. Sure. He wasn't in a strict "rule mode" but he wasn't crazy or anything We hit the clan ex oos went to because of spank. Spank and his group od ex oos are the reasons for the fight. So whatever clan they are at was the opponent Fish has been a member. In fact. I saw him before spank was owner. But when spank got owner he went away. He was helping oos out here for a while If their clan was doing so bad, it was because spank chased all of us away, then why take it in and give out 3 council spots in cd?
Heavy was extremely sick. If you care any oos member knows that. So he's away. I don't wear the tag. I wear the tag for no clan. If I wear a clan tag and something happens I would need to loose the tag. I don't keep nob on me much so I don't like to waste it Spank was a good warrior. But his talent was his talking. Opposite what you say. He could twist words or say things in a way to make people follow him. Cheese knew this and gave clan to spank for his retirement. We all saw him say until he returns in the far future. Impossible since spank disbanded and kicked cheese. If spank was holding clan and then kicked him he was betraying cheese. That's why we left Panda and spank did have their names on our CI. It's our CI and if we felt we could put all of your names as noobs an you couldn't do a thing. They betrayed oos. We put them up. I understand you not liking it but too bad. You have reason to lie because in every other osw crackdown had support when they posted forums. Since you didn't get that right away you made your own thread (spookie) and tried here. Telling the truth wouldn't help. You need to sway the opinion. That's why you would lie Your story always has changes in it when you say it. At least stay with one story
As I'm pushed for time I'm only replying to these post with these not mercs hey? Wow We are so fooled! And isn't it conveient that your merged with a clan with all spies during an osw u don't fool anyone with ur rubbish Angie.
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