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Yes we need a feature to show how much charms affect and how much excess we have. This way we can adapt easily which part of our build to fix and move some charms to other members to get max cap. Knowing we are cap on charms and ally then can move some charms to friends who needs them.Mushroom said:Can you dev add to oyr profile a section where whey can see if whey have too mutch chafm or not
________________MuSaNg_____IDD said:My opinion for those players that are not BC who bought seals then traded for charms should be refunded by devs. This changes screw them badly. My opinion they got scam by devs with their real money. If ata don’t refund them. They should try get the refund from Apple or google. Count how many seals you traded for charms and get the refund on those amount. It’s only fair for small players who lost their charm value to get money back.
Very interesting that people are still talking about that apple 6 years later.quigamalathedestroyer said:Sinan remind us again what happened to that apple laughing emoji guy and all those players who suddenly vanished overnight?
we all know a real issue with this game that devs don't deal with or care about
Make it easy for you to move charms among your multiple alts?________________MuSaNg_____IDD said:Yes we need a feature to show how much charms affect and how much excess we have. This way we can adapt easily which part of our build to fix and move some charms to other members to get max cap. Knowing we are cap on charms and ally then can move some charms to friends who needs them.Mushroom said:Can you dev add to oyr profile a section where whey can see if whey have too mutch chafm or not
III_MiNi-MaCk10_III said:Very interesting that people are still talking about that apple 6 years later.quigamalathedestroyer said:Sinan remind us again what happened to that apple laughing emoji guy and all those players who suddenly vanished overnight?
we all know a real issue with this game that devs don't deal with or care about
Can very well imagine the massive amount of devastation that had been brought upon, being so massive it scarred you for life permanently. I feel sorry for you.
Move on bro. It's already 2019.
gj151515 said:@Winston,
While I am very much against the charm farmers let me give you a detailed explanation how this specific update impacted me and many others and the way we legitimately played the game:
1. Top 10/50/100 charms and rewards:
By finishing in the top 10/50/100 in many events the awards given were equipment with higher stats. Accordingly I transmuted many extra pieces of equipment into charms. I also traded many top 50/100 pieces of equipment into raw stats in order to help me have bigger charms/rewards stats to compensate for the fact that I am not LCBC and do not have massive BFA. .
2. Dragonheart Reward:
Winning the Dragonheart Reward gave me the most powerful reward in the game - you just rendered it stateless in practice. I spent real money to participate in this event as this is the way you structured it!
3. Trigem rewards:
many of us spent money to both get Triggem chests (required premium eb) and open them (required paid for keys). You just rendered both the Amulet and the Helmet meaningless. Accordingly we wasted real money to get charms that are useless!
4. Build:
For over a year now I changed my build from attack to spy. I relied on charms to balance me out on attack. I took down dozens of attack buildings and replaced them with spy buildings. Accordingly my building CS are much lower. My stats are also focused on Spy build. Suggesting that I now change my build or buy many trillions in attack allies are simply not realistic!
Hence not only did I lose massive CS, I also am unable to rebuild my attack CS or have anything to balance my attack. I have no way to buy massive amount of attack allies - I assume the overwhelming of players do not either!
5. Alts:
I do have a few alts. It is a part of the game that you encouraged and structured. All my alts are big and are in the game for years before charms existed! I spent time to make sure that all my alts receive all charms in every event. I also tried to get all chests everyday!
Accordingly over a long period of time I transmuted these charms, sold chests and furniture to support the strategy that I used to build my main and play the game!
6. Trading:
I traded many rares/furniture/royal chests/stacked and maxed charms in order to build my raw stats. Again you just rendered all these trades irrelevant. Furthermore rather than dismantling and increasing my furniture stats I chose to trade them away to build my charms stats. In reality you made many of us "lose" by deciding to trade!
7. BFA:
I am not LCBC. Accordingly I wanted to continue to build my Kingdom and use gold to upgrade it whenever possible. You just made my decision to build my kingdom for years rather than build my BFA idiotic.
8. Furniture:
Many players decided to trade furniture for charms! I traded most of my furniture since they were introduced in the game as I chose to build my charms bonus instead.
Once you have a level 10 fully equipped piece of furniture that you are happy with your only option is to trade other pieces of furniture for the same slot. What is the purpose of doing it now if you cannot use the charms?
For example - trading a top 10 pet might get you as much as 15bil cs in charms!
So who benefited?
The top kingdoms that are LCBC and have massive BFA as they no longer need to buy land and build on it. Their charms will all still count unlike mine.
Suggesting that we strip these huge accounts is really practical! Although my account is pretty large there is no way I can get through on LBs with much larger stats than me and a massive BFA. There is simply no way I can strip them while they will have no problem whatsoever stripping me. I don't have the gold to buy their allies andI can't hit them successfully. On the other side they have the gold to buy all my allies and have no problem getting through on me! now you made this disparity even larger as I have much less power while these players power was not affected.
As part of the game as you structured it, charms were a way for us smaller players to even out our build and lack of BFA by building our power in charms. That actually was a way to balance the game rather than just focus on BFA or CS - now you just made BFA much more powerful.
Granted some people took advantage on loopholes and I am very much against charm farmers! However, the current solution requires significant improvement taking into consideration the problems outlined above.
Just a thought which I didn't think through - wouldn't it be enough if you limit charms power to multiplier of CS (much higher than 50% though - lets say 20x of CS)? This way the tiny charm farmers accounts can't use their charms while the rest of us don't get harmed!
Also I will remove the limitation of charms count against either your attack or spy - the way to BALANCE the game is to allow us to use the opposite charms to what we have in CS and BFA.
Bob_Sacamano said:Devs made a mistake when they brought charms into the game and I Cant blame people for exploiting, but those same people should've realized it wouldn't last forever lol
gj151515 said:@Winston,
While I am very much against the charm farmers let me give you a detailed explanation how this specific update impacted me and many others and the way we legitimately played the game:
1. Top 10/50/100 charms and rewards:
By finishing in the top 10/50/100 in many events the awards given were equipment with higher stats. Accordingly I transmuted many extra pieces of equipment into charms. I also traded many top 50/100 pieces of equipment into raw stats in order to help me have bigger charms/rewards stats to compensate for the fact that I am not LCBC and do not have massive BFA. .
2. Dragonheart Reward:
Winning the Dragonheart Reward gave me the most powerful reward in the game - you just rendered it stateless in practice. I spent real money to participate in this event as this is the way you structured it!
3. Trigem rewards:
many of us spent money to both get Triggem chests (required premium eb) and open them (required paid for keys). You just rendered both the Amulet and the Helmet meaningless. Accordingly we wasted real money to get charms that are useless!
4. Build:
For over a year now I changed my build from attack to spy. I relied on charms to balance me out on attack. I took down dozens of attack buildings and replaced them with spy buildings. Accordingly my building CS are much lower. My stats are also focused on Spy build. Suggesting that I now change my build or buy many trillions in attack allies are simply not realistic!
Hence not only did I lose massive CS, I also am unable to rebuild my attack CS or have anything to balance my attack. I have no way to buy massive amount of attack allies - I assume the overwhelming of players do not either!
5. Alts:
I do have a few alts. It is a part of the game that you encouraged and structured. All my alts are big and are in the game for years before charms existed! I spent time to make sure that all my alts receive all charms in every event. I also tried to get all chests everyday!
Accordingly over a long period of time I transmuted these charms, sold chests and furniture to support the strategy that I used to build my main and play the game!
6. Trading:
I traded many rares/furniture/royal chests/stacked and maxed charms in order to build my raw stats. Again you just rendered all these trades irrelevant. Furthermore rather than dismantling and increasing my furniture stats I chose to trade them away to build my charms stats. In reality you made many of us "lose" by deciding to trade!
7. BFA:
I am not LCBC. Accordingly I wanted to continue to build my Kingdom and use gold to upgrade it whenever possible. You just made my decision to build my kingdom for years rather than build my BFA idiotic.
8. Furniture:
Many players decided to trade furniture for charms! I traded most of my furniture since they were introduced in the game as I chose to build my charms bonus instead.
Once you have a level 10 fully equipped piece of furniture that you are happy with your only option is to trade other pieces of furniture for the same slot. What is the purpose of doing it now if you cannot use the charms?
For example - trading a top 10 pet might get you as much as 15bil cs in charms!
So who benefited?
The top kingdoms that are LCBC and have massive BFA as they no longer need to buy land and build on it. Their charms will all still count unlike mine.
Suggesting that we strip these huge accounts is really practical! Although my account is pretty large there is no way I can get through on LBs with much larger stats than me and a massive BFA. There is simply no way I can strip them while they will have no problem whatsoever stripping me. I don't have the gold to buy their allies andI can't hit them successfully. On the other side they have the gold to buy all my allies and have no problem getting through on me! now you made this disparity even larger as I have much less power while these players power was not affected.
As part of the game as you structured it, charms were a way for us smaller players to even out our build and lack of BFA by building our power in charms. That actually was a way to balance the game rather than just focus on BFA or CS - now you just made BFA much more powerful.
Granted some people took advantage on loopholes and I am very much against charm farmers! However, the current solution requires significant improvement taking into consideration the problems outlined above.
Just a thought which I didn't think through - wouldn't it be enough if you limit charms power to multiplier of CS (much higher than 50% though - lets say 20x of CS)? This way the tiny charm farmers accounts can't use their charms while the rest of us don't get harmed!
Also I will remove the limitation of charms count against either your attack or spy - the way to BALANCE the game is to allow us to use the opposite charms to what we have in CS and BFA.
iIlii-____iI-N4T3_Iillii______ said:________________MuSaNg_____IDD said:My opinion for those players that are not BC who bought seals then traded for charms should be refunded by devs. This changes screw them badly. My opinion they got scam by devs with their real money. If ata don’t refund them. They should try get the refund from Apple or google. Count how many seals you traded for charms and get the refund on those amount. It’s only fair for small players who lost their charm value to get money back.
I agree, I came back to this game significantly behind. I realized I could sell seals for charms, so I did. I also did a top ten run and did everything I could within TOU/TOS only to have all that time and money account for not as much as I thought it would be. Now I’m capped and have this struggle of do I upgrade or by allies at this point.
The ally market is already super inflated by LB players with tens of quatrilions of gold at their disposal. There’s no way with legitimate means to compete with that unless I take a mortgage out on my home.
I think a better idea was to treat charms like allies, capped at a certain number. From there it would be up to trading to make your charm stack what you want it to be. Have an option to destroy some charms you don’t want that give a return of gold, upgrade materials, or any other currency that is still useful to players.
While I’m on note of change; why on earth can there not be a system to transmute or combine lower level building tokens into bigger building tokens. Treat them like trader tokens. For example 400 lowland tokens or 300 highland tokens yields 50 deepmine or 100 osman tokens. Idk there seems to be a much simpler way to aprproach the grevineces of many.
Nerfing charms this way was not well thought out, someone just agreed to the first thing that sounded good. Zero forethought went into this. It begs the question if any of the devs actually play this game within the realm of other players and not just in test servers for data collection.
No idea what you are trying to prove.quigamalathedestroyer said:III_MiNi-MaCk10_III said:Very interesting that people are still talking about that apple 6 years later.quigamalathedestroyer said:Sinan remind us again what happened to that apple laughing emoji guy and all those players who suddenly vanished overnight?
we all know a real issue with this game that devs don't deal with or care about
Can very well imagine the massive amount of devastation that had been brought upon, being so massive it scarred you for life permanently. I feel sorry for you.
Move on bro. It's already 2019.
"6 years ago"....apple had no affect on me whatsoever just calling out yafi's hypocrisy. Funny since he's gone yafi doesn't exist anymore. Says it all really
Bob_Sacamano said:Devs made a mistake when they brought charms into the game and I Cant blame people for exploiting, but those same people should've realized it wouldn't last forever lol
iIlii-____iI-N4T3_Iillii______ said:iIlii-____iI-N4T3_Iillii______ said:________________MuSaNg_____IDD said:My opinion for those players that are not BC who bought seals then traded for charms should be refunded by devs. This changes screw them badly. My opinion they got scam by devs with their real money. If ata don’t refund them. They should try get the refund from Apple or google. Count how many seals you traded for charms and get the refund on those amount. It’s only fair for small players who lost their charm value to get money back.
I agree, I came back to this game significantly behind. I realized I could sell seals for charms, so I did. I also did a top ten run and did everything I could within TOU/TOS only to have all that time and money account for not as much as I thought it would be. Now I’m capped and have this struggle of do I upgrade or by allies at this point.
The ally market is already super inflated by LB players with tens of quatrilions of gold at their disposal. There’s no way with legitimate means to compete with that unless I take a mortgage out on my home.
I think a better idea was to treat charms like allies, capped at a certain number. From there it would be up to trading to make your charm stack what you want it to be. Have an option to destroy some charms you don’t want that give a return of gold, upgrade materials, or any other currency that is still useful to players.
While I’m on note of change; why on earth can there not be a system to transmute or combine lower level building tokens into bigger building tokens. Treat them like trader tokens. For example 400 lowland tokens or 300 highland tokens yields 50 deepmine or 100 osman tokens. Idk there seems to be a much simpler way to aprproach the grevineces of many.
Nerfing charms this way was not well thought out, someone just agreed to the first thing that sounded good. Zero forethought went into this. It begs the question if any of the devs actually play this game within the realm of other players and not just in test servers for data collection.
Reposting since it got glossed over.