Basically what i read is: To fix a problem with guild hansels, weve effectively turned our backs on our biggest and most loyal players. We have taken away their effectiveness in osw and ee wars. They can no longer make profit unless they hit ebs (bfa=eb warrior thats hard to hit). We have effectively removed the need to continue past hlbc. We have effectively ended big clan osw as now any large bfa players will not earn a dime (affecting lb clans the most). We have opened up large bfa players to hits all day to small players bc they will pay so good, and taken away any decent retaliation. We have made it easier for small players to grow while removing any war aspect from players who have played the game since there were no ebs. We have given the guild hansel and/or any small bfa build the opportunity in ee to earn more off an att than any lb player. We have effectively killed war in a war game as now the best advantage goes to anyone that hasnt spent countless months and/or thousands of dollars in xtals/nobs on their account over time. Unless your ok with hitting ebs all day for the rest of your kawreer there is no longer any use in bfa or being on the lb. Wow thnx devs. In trying to fix a problem you have now alienated your most loyal customers, the ones that made this game what it is today, the ones that have funded your salary for the last 3 years. I forsee the end of any real osw (small clans will have plenty but any of any size will be useless) and any resemblance of real war, even resulting in useless ee wars that will end up as nothing more than tiny mith wars. What exactly will kaw become when all the people who have nobbed and xtalled all day retire because of this? I have no bfa and this change would technically be in my favor, yet I can easily see that this might be the worst thing to ever happen to kaw. I feel for the LB players, friends or enemies, bc this is a tragedy to the most loyal of kaw players and the basis of this game.
@One- hit targets closer to your size. Stop feeding on mp hansels and get out there and war kingdoms that rival your own rather than feeding off of easy targets.
Wow this is terrible. So now becuz I have to smack around a hansel smaller than me for starting ****, I make 10m less? Why don't you just go the route you're heading and make hitting players outside EE war illegal Devs? So I can finally quit this game. And belle shut up you know damn well your buddies were using said exploits and were left untouched. Don't play innocent. You are the favoured. Take a bow. Claim your throne!
Bravo bellmorte??? This rule is just to appease big bfa ( big money spenders) The fact that you will make less plunder hitting a lesser opponent has not changed. What has changed is that smaller stat accounts with high bfa are going to lose more money when they are attacked by a higher stat opponent . Some will say ok this is fair because they take more money from higher star players with lesser bfa. This is true however what makes this game unique is the diversity of builds and the players ability to use his brain to overcome this diversity. If rules are changed to overcome every advantage a player can seek then where is the fun of the game? Lets all just hit eb repeat buttons
@wadii- I'm a tad busy but you are seeing a skewed perspective. Was it not always the case that larger builds paid more than smaller builds? Are larger builds not more difficult to get through so should pay better? This doesn't end pvp play. It just means you get to stop feeding off the little guys and hit players your own size. Change your war strategy from "feed off of mp hansels" to "fight accounts my own size" and you won't have an issue. However, I do see how there could be a need for some tweaks in areas where accounts like red can't really make crap off of anyone but 5 other players. Perhaps, instead of whinging about what SHOULD have been in place from the start, you could seek a tweak to the change that could benefit large accounts without taking away the huge benefits that this update creates for 99% of kaw.
Absolutely not cynder. That is a false accusation against me. I did not, nor did anyone of my buddies use that exploit. NO ONE received any special compensation because of me. Your buddies did, however. I'm sure that makes you angry. But it's not nice to make false accusations of cheating against people. I'll be reporting that comment as it is not only unfounded but an attempt to tarnish my reputation.
'Feeding on the little guys' Lolz so sad the level of control ATA has on you still. Does it feel good to promote a **** company in exchange for immunity? This also means it is pointless to fight a 'little guy'. Guy I'm fighting only 1m cs smaller and he started with me. So now I get to suffer a 1/4 decrease to my pot and growth money because he's smaller. Guess I should start hitting the LB and not worry bout being hit back as there is no point for them right? Yah this is really still kingdoms at war. Pathetic.
Belle, so your answer is, ignore the guy hitting me, who burns 20x as much in pots with every action, that I can never recoup from hitting back? That's stupid. Why would anyone war if you cant sustain. Only way to recoup potion loss is through EB. EB are kinda stupid and no one keeps playing because they can't wait to see what EB comes out next. No one buys nobility so they can hit the EB harder. I see ATA obviously trying push the game away from bfa. The introduction of mith, equipment, and now this is an attempt to save a game that's on it's last legs. The LB are so big no new player could ever catch up so they have decided to favor new players over the old in hopes to rekindle dwindling income with I guess xtals on eb and EE wars. Good luck with that.
Report away hun. But I in no way called you a cheater did I? Nope so I was not out to tarnish your reputation. You do that to yourself by having your period all over forums unless ur doing your job backing up ATA. But you'll get what you want I'm sure. Enjoy. I could care less tbh. This game is complete **** nowadays
Oh and what happened to: "I don't care what anyone thinks of me." Suddenly disappeared that's weird
No 0ne. We all know you don't have a problem sic'ing your clan on anyone who hits you. So of suggest you have your builds or one of your alts to take care of the piss ant. I've been in war for months with a potless allyless clan, half of which were reset did the exploit. They pay CRAP. But I make gold from ally trading, as do you. I can attack some of the targets still for 20-30mil a hit. So between the gold I make from ally trading (which is a huge part of YOUR income, 0ne) and the gold I make from beating on the dead ones, I haven't had a single problem making gold. True, I don't make as much as I would if I eb'ed nonstop. But OSW never was meant to be a money making venture. It was meant to be about pride, honor, and kicking ass. So, like I said, I'm busy for awhile so continue hating without understanding. I'll try to catch up later.
Yes, bravo bellemorte. I understand that this is a big change and effects alot of people, but it's more realistic. I understand that everyone is used to the way things are and did there best to position themselves in a way that will make them successful in that way. I understand that people will want to make changes, or have to make changes to get that advantage back. But I do feel that this is better then to continue to do it the wrong way. This update means that people get paid for attacking others based on the targets more true strength. Point blank. Gh can no longer hide behind their bfa and will pay out accordingly.I don't see the problem with that at all.
Am I the only one that's still confused? A little more explanation by devs would be helpful. For example the amount lost ... are there changes to that?
Sweet I hope those hits will drive my point home. U just made significantly less on me belle, than you would have yesterday. Not to mention broken a family wide CF in the process. 'Osw is about Honor, pride blah blah bleed bleed' Someone just said that...that was you right? Tsk tsk breaking CF doesn't seem honorable at all
0ne, you are not the only one confused. I haven't had a chance to test this out yet, so am reserving real comment until I do. However, I will say that just from Kaw admins post I think they missed the forest for the tree again.