I don't apologize for derailing this nonsense. Last Statement. Dotb didnt screw up primals. Primals was a system begging to get shredded apart and the KaWmunity did so. You have done nothing to improve the situation. Staging a boycott would only drive a nail into the coffin. You shouldnt even be making a thread on this, as you "claim" that you war with Dotb. The fact that you hadnt posted op with that account is both cowardly and Hypocritical. Good day to you sir.
In what other games do people not want to maximize their effectiveness in pvp? There are thousands of websites of people who do nothing but tell people how to maximize your builds effectiveness under the rules of these various games. Here, people seem to feel that maximizing output is somehow exploitation. Building an optimal build for round/primals is exploitation Building a roster to maximize collective output is exploitation Building a roster to meet another specific roster is exploitation Growing too much is exploitation I could go on. This is about another topic but I found it relevant:
@Ana Grow your builds, that's not the underlining problem here, lol. If no other clan can roster over a billion cs (aside from BG2, Silver and 108) why continue to do so when u know u will get a lop sided match? Seriously how hard is this to comprehend? If Dotb is truly in the "We Own it" group wouldn't u know if another clan is trying to build a roster to match u? STOP MAKING EXCUSES TO THE POINT! Dotb was not part of the blame early on, but when night after night I see mismatch after mismatch (and btw hit ratio or any other bs doesn't apply anymore so flush that example) why doesn't that sink in?
They are to blame Bass, that's beyond the fact. And @Ana that quote u unearthed is contridicting when Dotb matches each other and doesn't war.
Problem is on the developer side, not DotB. This game has the worse development team of any game I have ever played; absolutely no transparency or notable dialog between development & the community. I mostly quit this once beloved game as a direct result of the lack of any even semi balanced PvP or effort from the devs to address the many easy fixes suggested by probably thousands of players by now. On a side note... Threads like these just feed the egos of players that don't really even deserve a mention.
That post is to do with stripping a PS in a indi so no not relevant to fighting a clan 1bil bigger than you in a system war that's meant to be near enough equal so it's fun.
I said it was about another topic...but that doesn't mean it isn't relevant... As for dotb vs dotb: I've been on both the winning and the losing sides of dotb vs itself matches. Winners give some hte phases for losers... I dont know where you got the idea that dotb doesn't ever war itself... Do they always? No, for various reasons it doesn't always happen. (For one, remember you have many alts in both clans...it's not Indy where only warriors can see cc) There are lots of reasons why the clan might choose not war against itself, but saying "dotb doesn't war against itself, but kills micro clans" is is generalizing way too much. Sounds good, I guess, if your goal is to single out and lynch a clan, but it's just simply not accurate.
I war at DOTB on my main have done since s4 and there have been many times DOTB have been the smaller team, some of those match up were horrendous. Did you see any DOTB bleating on in the forums NO, they modified there strat, scouted opposition and have always looked to match a team of similar size. There have been huge mismatches of late but that's not DOTB's fault it's the Devs. Silver BG Lar division 1 and noobs on the battlefield have all been fielding huge rosters and if they miss sign up by 1 or pull out the devs match with the next biggest team. Now the system is flawed but defiantly not any 1 clans fault a simple /- 10% cs on larger rosters dropping to 20% /- cs difference on smaller rosters would solve this issue. Example 1000mil cs get a 10% cs /- so can match 900mil to 1100mil. A 300mil roster would be /- 20% meaning they can match 240mil to 360mil Cs. A simple solution to a simple problem. Blame the game not the player. Fatty Out
I havnt done a primal that you've WCed, even though you've asked me to, simply because I dont have faith in your ability as a WC in primal wars. But I've done plenty of primals. If Apoc started warring again or sylv asked me to war, I would do plenty more primals because I trust those WCs and they dont rage or make excuses when they lose. Instead of blaming Sylv and Dotb for your short commings, maybe you should join that new EE group I've been hearing so much about and learn to WC better.
I'm not BC and war at dotb so 15bc every war isn't what happens. On rare occasions when other clans are going all BC or agree a match up dotb will go all bc but its rare and I've grown a bit last few weeks I was getting rostered every war @ 32 37 spy stats. Fix the system +/- 10% CS on big rosters up to 20% cs difference on small rosters job done.
I've done plenty of primals (fact) I dont trust rr-immort as a wc(fact) I do trust Apoc and Dotb wcs(fact) Boycotting primals would kill them(highly educated guess) The only arguable statement I've made is the last one. So please, explain how I have no clue.
Let's See, last time dotb match P_3 on even terms RR won by 10bil, and most of the loses he complains about involve being 1/3 to 1/4 the opponents size, I agree that sometimes he lets his anger get the best of him but to say he is a bad wc is an insane comment as people who have actually WCed against will agree even if they don't like him
@ Every Dotb member who contributed their thoughts on this and other threads It is what it is I guess, keep doing what u are doing. Only the devs are to blame...no one else. Have fun squashing more rosters until only u are left.
Best way to fix wars is give everyone the same stats at match up the build you are given will be completely random and your team will have the exact same cs as the other team seen this suggested before but you get to choose your build but everyone will just choose a Hansel so I think random would be best.