First asw in 4yr of kaw I could sign up for but first war was in a crap time for me. Cry cry. Waaa.
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ASW 2017 Massive Failure before it starts
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BoredSavan
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These wars would be more competitive if theybl were shorter. 3 hours each would boost activity and sign ups. Also stat gap is too large for the bottom half cr plunder to matter much. Asw, like everyrhing else now, needs tiers. At least two.
KaW isn't dead, yet. The product sucks compared to what it was though. I'd say a majority of kawers agree with this notion. So how healthy is KaW?
As for ASW. It's just not worth the time or effort. Rewards for the first one were great. Now you get gaudy stars by your name for winning and that's about all...oh yeah...an achievement badge. Subject to change of course but It is what it is and has been for quite some time. Devs wanna boost ASW interest? Drop some massive equip bonus for winners who participate. Kinda simple.
As for ASW. It's just not worth the time or effort. Rewards for the first one were great. Now you get gaudy stars by your name for winning and that's about all...oh yeah...an achievement badge. Subject to change of course but It is what it is and has been for quite some time. Devs wanna boost ASW interest? Drop some massive equip bonus for winners who participate. Kinda simple.
__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This is a very valid point and something we're thinking about.
ATABruce said:__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This is a very valid point and something we're thinking about.
I've got to say it's very annoying not being able to be in the asw when I'm bigger than a fair few of members already in it yet I can't participate due to the overall lb being a bit dodgy
NICKOtheNINJA
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ATABruce said:__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This is a very valid point and something we're thinking about.
The ranking system does need rework for ASW. I understand I'm not qualified for multiple reasons but as a past war season LB player I feel left out. Oh well maybe next year :/
Shadow_Trader
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Please, do change something in the ranking system because at this rate I'll be fighting next ASW with this size...
House_Fafhrd_DoU
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Please don't change it too much. Us veterans still deserve a chance to participate.
D3Fi-The_P3-ISS-DirtyDugan_ISS
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__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This was very well stated. I can't understand why you would want to limit the amount of participation other than its beyond the availability of the written codes.
My suggestion would be to create divisions. Smaller players with lower battle stats in one and then another division for the rest. At this point run the ASW like you currently are. Winners of the divisions earn prizes.
However, why stop there?
Take the top two teams from each division and combine them for an ultimate final battle where the two teams compete for even better rewards.
PoleDancingOlympics2020
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Chocolate, 570k battle wins, 57m cs, eligible? Lmao what
PHILTHIEST1
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A top game developer seriously ripped off many players just the other week. Putting it all in context ATA are very well behaved. But if that happened here it would be the end yes. The ripoffs seem confined to the biggest game developers in the market as they can afford the gamble of player decline
PHILTHIEST1
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ASW lost what appeal it had three years ago i believe. Still im sure its fun if you make it so...
thats why its the top 10.000 not top 100.000 and why stop there whynot make all of kaw beable to do asw.It just loses the reason for doing it.My only issue with the way things are going most kaw vets had to grind hard to get where they are.Now somebody overnight can be 100 mil cs.just crazy.kaw is killing itself with this
xlXl_DREDD_lXlx said:ATABruce said:__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This is a very valid point and something we're thinking about.
I've got to say it's very annoying not being able to be in the asw when I'm bigger than a fair few of members already in it yet I can't participate due to the overall lb being a bit dodgy
You've got a 5-year badge. Cmon, if you don't have the ranking to be in asw, it's your fault not the system's.
I appreciate the original point though for newer players.
hunter_killer
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ATABruce said:__Individually_Idiosyncratic__ said:Actually, serious point:
It is probably a mistake in the current metagame to give so much weighting to Battle Wins in determining global 10K leaderboard.
You have growing and active players with fewer than 100K Battle Wins who could be useful, and who would certainly appreciate the opportunity to cast (this was me in 2016).
Then you have some midgets with massive Battle Wins and undersized builds that can't tank or hit in 10K, simply because they've been playing for so long.
Given the massive kawinflation from sb, tokens, and bfe that has happened this year, the ranking formula really should be revised.
This is a very valid point and something we're thinking about.
And another LB for those with the highest amount of battle losses, obviously because of so much OSW, determining true battle hardiness
?
-GRIZZY- for VK
No.
You're forgetting about osfs and oafs that have accumulated thousands (millions in some cases) of losses by doing nothing.
What does osw hardened mean anyway? How do you measure it? Looking at losses might be a good heuristic, but it won't tell anyone the full story. I've run into quite a few bad asses with <10k losses and quite a few pansies with way more than 10k losses.
I'd be interested in ideas to assess and measure battle hardiness though.
You're forgetting about osfs and oafs that have accumulated thousands (millions in some cases) of losses by doing nothing.
What does osw hardened mean anyway? How do you measure it? Looking at losses might be a good heuristic, but it won't tell anyone the full story. I've run into quite a few bad asses with <10k losses and quite a few pansies with way more than 10k losses.
I'd be interested in ideas to assess and measure battle hardiness though.
hunter_killer said:And another LB for those with the highest amount of battle losses, obviously because of so much OSW, determining true battle hardiness
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-GRIZZY- for VK
Crepusculum
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__E_v_l_L___UnRestrictedMurder said:Chocolate, 570k battle wins, 57m cs, eligible? Lmao what
He dropped build from a 200mcs hansel, but there were other accounts in asw that were much smaller. Athlien and chewy are both smaller than him statwise but also participated in asw
Focke-Wulf-190D
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Im much salt. Devs ruined Asw Finals
Nighthawk_FPBO_1
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GRYMLN said:Y is everyone surprised that devs crapped on yet another event
Were you in ASW?
How did the devs crap on ASW?
Been in 4 ASW's and missed a 5th on my own mistake and i find some crying is simply repetitive and a waste of time. Losers should be good sports rather than whine. Not singling anyone out in particular either.