As a hansel, I'm pretty sure I know why I don't even mess with EE wars. And it has nothing to do with the plunder aspect. I'm a hansel. I know my role on war isn't plunder. And I'm telling you from personal experience, it's not the plunder aspect that keeps me from doing the wars. It's the fact that someone with 400k in spies can easily zero me out. The reason for that is he can use spy pots to scout me. It's an oversight from the developers. They don't test, a problem arose. Obviously it took them 3 seasons to address the sh/GH issue. The spy pots on scout attacks are another issue that they don't seem to care about. They didnt care about the gh/sh issue either until they saw their revenue drop because of it.
Cloud, your not reading this one right. They arent fixing the plunder issue. They are simply using bfe in the calculations now, but since most sh clans make the sh drop eq anyways that wont make a difference. They will still.make ludicrous plunder off mids when their pots succeed. Especially since those mids will now have even less static defence because their eq is nerfed. If anything this update will make high bfa sh even more op than they already were.
Mickey I already proved to Steve that that's untrue scaling will help and being properly towered it will take 2-3 even 4 builds my size to sb u to zero if it takes 3 bars of anything to zero one bar mechs are working 2.5-3.0 mill sdt and u are good to go with scaling in place If u would like to run a test I will prove it to u or if u don't understand why scouting doesn't use pots I can explain it but not a place for here
Oh and you and mickey are.both completely right. 1 hr wars and the inability to use pots when defending scouts are why hansels are.obsolete in ee today
Support my request for some wars to completely nullify BFA people ... Match ups will be easier to do, you can still have some advantage with how you set up your equipment . Try it and see how popular it becomes , more clans warring, better revenue , more fun. At least give people the option to try it devs , must be easy enough to do so why won't you try it? I'd say exactly the same thing if I was top ten on the LB because at the end of the day it's a community event and about the KAW players as a whole , something people seem to forget these days
Station u proved BFE and pots are needed to scout me successfully please be accurate in your feedback scaling will help but so will the uneven pot issue.
Ya know reading the update at first got me excited, then reading it burns' post had me wondering what I'm excited about exactly lol. I'm not sure any of these changes do anything .
If my BFE is scaled and your BFE is scaled the difference IS still pots ️ there's no debate there at all!
Not sure I agree with op comment on pg 15. I've never been in an EE war clan where it was acceptable to strip allies after match up. Yes, it is part of the game, but has been respected (usually) on both sides as something you don't do during EE wars. EE is already a waste of gold, throw in the fact that someone outside of the LOCKED rosters can hire your allies while you're getting heavy incoming atks/stls and lose billions more, is absurd. I think that is what OSW is for. I feel once roster is locked, allies should be locked, just as bfe is locked and buying/selling buildings is locked. If you're basing the matches on the snapshot of cs, bfa, and bfe, then IMO lock it all.
And also completely agree with the scouting. Hansels are worthless in ee because my shoe can scout a 14 mil cs hansel to zero.
U got through my towers with pots / assume my BFE your BFE cancels it's self out here. And I am sure my bfa is more than yours. Granted I am short If the 3m SDT u advise. I am not trying to say it's the solution, but a test war with this would be nice to see the results.
Scaling Bfe is almost an exact reset to pre equip mechanics when hansels ruled the roost (not quite because it's true when full I'm better scouter but still couldn't empty u ) and is anyone going to tell me pre equip era that hansels were weak because they could be sb? Only reason u could be was because in that era no one had sdt now with 3 mill u easily counter sap and ur size then becomes the factor
So in other words sh gonna keep using 2-4 pieces of eq. So that way they don't leak plunder cause if u implement these changes sh just won't use full bfe or they will leak.
I think scaling bfe is a really bad idea. And I'm curious to what players and apple would have to say since not all equip is won or rewarded. Some players bought mith when it was for sale or stocked up mith and purchased equip. No they face the fact that their purchase will have a lower value. As its been stated in this thread the first nail in the coffin of EE was allowing players to clan hop without the loss of ee. Season 1 ee was advertised as a way to promote clan unity. And it worked ppl stayed in clans and you had fun wars. Win or lose you were with your clan. If you lost you worked to adapt to have a better roster or next war. This grabbing ppl from wc to stack a roster goes completely against what the ee system was originally founded on. And yes devs need to look at locking ALL ally buying and selling when WOC cast if to rule out that exploit. As for the sh or ssh I don't know what devs can do but their range and ability to hit an win against mid and large builds should not have been able to happen. But this goes way back into game mechanics.
If your nerfing bfe so much will you be adding gold rewards to ee wars or is it just gonna be equip bonus still that won't be useful for you in wars anyways and if so what's the point in using equip as the reward
If allies get locked just for woc cast, anyone and everyone can cast at all times, going to war or not and their allies will be forever locked if they don't want to sell. They'll need a better idea than that