An Update on Season 5 + Wars!

Discussion in 'Past Announcements' started by [ATA]Grant, Jun 25, 2015.

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  1. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    I think the most telling part of the proposal, whether it gets changed or not, is the fact that the devs ever thought it at all reasonable that out of 30 players, we could be expected to get 20-25 of them to show up at a random time chosen by the devs.

    Seriously?

    This just shows how out of touch you are.

    This is a BFA fest for sh and lb with time on their hands. everyone else not invited.
     
  2. K ,I'm in .Give me my dream team
     
  3. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    This seems like a good time to tear down my ADT and become an osw fairy. If this is the format for S5 I will not be participating, and I only play for war
     
  4. with the stupid times, i have been in full clans of 100-150 people that could not get 15 people together to war, now you want it out of 30, and 2x the ammount active warriors in a time slot. you have completely lost your mind, and proven you have no clue what it takes to war, or how to play your own game
     
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    What r the times then?
    Is a war sched out somewhere?
     
  6. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    Devs are ice cold
    Round wars that sh gold
    This one for them hood apoc girls
    Them good girls straight masterpieces
    Stylin, whilen , livin it up in kaw
    Got equipment on with enchantments
    Got kiss myself im so pretty

    Im too hot
    Called devs out and got a forum ban
    Im too hot
    Read a thread and want to retire man
    Im too hot
    Say my name you know who i am
    Im too hot
    And im bad about taken yo money, break it down

    Girls hit your hallelujah
    Girls hit your hallelujah
    Girls hit your hallelujah
    Cause season 5's gonna give it to you
    Cause season 5's gonna give it to you
    Cause season 5's gonna give it to you
    Every night we in a spot
    Dont believe me just watch

    Dint believe me just watch

    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch

    Hey hey hey

    Stop , wait a minute
    2hr war better xtal in it
    Want to war, sign a check
    Ata go get the stretch
    Ride to division 1, dotb , psychosis experiment
    If we show up we going out
    Smoother than acfresh dry poopy

    Im too hot
    Called apple and ata man
    Im too hot
    Make a thread to retire man
    Im too hot
    Devs say my name you know who i am
    Im too hot
    And i mad about this season
    Break it down

    Gorls hit you hallelujah
    Girls hit your hallelujah
    Girls hit your hallelujah
    Cause season 5 's gonna give it to you
    Cause season 5's gonna give it to you
    Cause season 5's gonna give it to you
    Any not and your stuck in a spot
    Dont believe me just watch

    Dont believe me just watch

    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Hey hey hey



    Before we leave
    Lemme tell yall a lil something
    Sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up
    I said sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up
    Sh funk u up

    Come on dance round wars junp on it
    If you sh then flaunt it
    If you sh then own
    Dont brag about it come show me

    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just watch
    Dont believe me just warch

    Season 5'gonna funk u up!
     
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    Nice song lmao. Shoulda added ssh lb stack in it though not us
     
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    I have no horses in this race - I've stated multiple times that I'm out of s5 in terms of trying to get all the equips and tryin to war 7-9 times a week and they I'm an occasional war tiger now. So when I post this - I'm speaking on behalf of those who want to war regularly

    I'm just concerned how devs used poor judgment - I have no idea how they looked at all the data (indi wars havin the most participation and round wars the worst) and thought to themselves, "hmmm....by Jove I got it....I think the kawmunity wants more round wars."

    I could understand if they went with the primal war format but seriously round? I teach 6th grade math and have taught some kids who made me want to cry because they didn't know what 5-4 was and even those kids would be like, "I think the devs need help with math."

    Not sure why I indi were scraped and why they couldn't do both tournament and Indis. If they did both - I could understand if the tournament format yielding more rewards and the Indis yielding less - as was done in s4.

    I dunno I've always advocated for balence in kaw - I hope the devs hear us out.
     
  9. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    Look kaw admin ...... I understand UR trying to prevent exploits and stacking

    This is way way to complex and still leaves miles of road open to exploit ... Just simple fact

    When I still played this game I preferred the 2/4 hour ee wars over the 1 hour plunder fest... 2/4 hour wars had much much more strategy involved and was a real test of war leader and team work ...... That being said kaw evolved into a 1 hour war system for 2 reasons
    1) not enough people willing to devote the time for that long a war
    2) no one want to sit through the horrible matches they got with the match up algorithm for that long

    There is only 1 fix for ee and kaw in general concerning pvp actions of any type

    FIX THE OUTDATED PLUNDER SYSTEM
    it's the reason any exploits exist at all and why Pvp in general sucks across the boards

    1) A base pay for ee or minimum pay or even a static pay for all builds WILL NOT WORK... There would still be ways to exploit to UR advantage in wars

    2) any kind of action based tally for war results won't work for 1 of 2 reason (1 doesn't account well enough for tanks soaking up actions and 2 would make all wars about who the largest most def heavy team was not skill ...again)


    my humble suggestion fix kaw plunder situation and make it fair to all builds

    First take pots out of the plunder equation totally .... They don't matter to plunder and it's only the difference between being a little harder to hit or not if someone is very close to UR exact same size ... It's outdated and unnecessary

    Second bfe / bfa / cs (cs depends on current troop level) as its added together to come up with UR true strength is what UR plunder value should be based on (this includes a total value U are worth when being hit) .... Cs (current troop level value) bfa bfe = (value)

    Third U plunder based on that "true strength" value as compared to the target true value .... With a basic top plunder and bottom plunder window based on UR buildings and allies ( Max ally plunder bonus) ....

    Tsv = true strength value

    Tsv 300 mill hits a player with a tsv of 300 mill (when attacker is full) the payout would be set at a good medium for his buildings including negative values of towers ...example 150 mill

    Tsv 300 mill hits a player (smaller) with a tsv of 100 mill ... The attacker would get a more minimum low end pay example 75 mill

    Tsv 300 mill hits player (larger) with a tsv of 400 mill the attacker would get paid on the higher end example 225 mill

    This is for winning actions only Ofcourse and taking into account the target players current tsv at the time of being hit .... Lower troops = lower tsv means less payout potential

    In other words easier the target less they pay harder the target more that pay

    This would stop any imbalance of plunder in war or outside of war and would allow U to set hit ratios according to the new "tsv" making hit ranges in all Pvp more realistic and fair

    P.s. This "tsv" could be used for all plundering actions including steals .... If u required all builds to have both types of troop buildings

    Anyway thanks for reading ...... Back to retirement ... Glad I was texted to read this thread
    Ohhhh and one more note : once the computer is set to determine UR max and minimum "tsv" the match algorithm could use these two values to better match clans in ee

    Max "tsv" (true strength value) = full troops (with towers for defensive side) + Bfe (static) + bfa (static) excluding pots still

    Min "tsv" = zero troops + Bfe + bfa excluding pots

    Sorry forgot to add this to original post
     
  10. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    Or change it to primal. Easy fix.
     
  11. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    Listen to station
     
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    S5 the end of kaw? Confirmed
     
  13. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    REBEL
     
  14. At a loss for words. I'd try and throw some constructive criticism in here but honestly I feel more like retiring. Asw was ALL that was left to look forward to on this game and looks like your about to take it behind the barn and put it out of it's misery too. How many times do you have to tweak things b4 you realize you always mess things up worse than make them better. It's been fun kaw, but i think its getting about that time I found a new hobby to waste my time and money on.
     
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    So what did u make Primal War for if u plan to make S5 as a round war format?
     
  16. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    End of KaW confirmed.

    Well played Devs 
     
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    Support
     

  18. word
     

  19. So let me get this straight. You hear bits and pieces of feedback about your product, then you introduce a new war season proposal that goes against 90% of what the feedback you were given in Titan_God's thread. This War season announcement does not address the hit range it actually helps exploit it, and it does nothing to allow mid sized accounts war competitively due to the ability for clans to stack rosters ssh n LB heavy all over again, which was the whole reason you created primal wars. You are again unsurprisingly waving a shiny carrot in front of people's faces, but it's tainted and rotten. This will be a roster stacking season all over again. Keep your season 5 and go back to the drawing board.
     
  20. Re: An Update on Season 5 Wars!

    Easy fix to s5: Strip all SSH
     
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