Don't hate me because you didn't bother to read your own links and got embarrassed. Hate yourself for not being smart enough and/or too lazy to read them before posting them. While I'm at it, stop lying. I didn't edit anything out, nor did I post Wikipedia as a link. I originally posted NASA and an article in the Guardian on the other thread, which had you bothered to read, I posted because they did an INTERVIEW with the guy who someone else (maybe you) posted as a so called expert. It shouldn't have even been brought up on this thread, but you posted about it here like you'd debunked something so I called you on it. If you want, I'm more than willing to continue to debate you on the other thread. I already have once and it didn't end well for you there either. Cheers.