The living death: zombies. They were confined to earth; buried in it to wander on it once more. Appear to be alive but are essentially death. Jesus, the living word of God. Eternal life confined to human finitude. Appears to have died, yet is the essence of life itself. Was not like a zombie confined to earth, but to heaven rather. Jesus therefore is best to be considered as a reversed zombie: the dying life. The concept of resurrection is misleading and does not really apply to him. He was eternal life subjected to the finite and it is said he will once more wander the earth like something that can die. The tradition of the easter bunny moreover probably derives from the conviction that we never stumble on his corpse in our search for eggs, since it is said not to be confined to earth, like zombies.
I think that his death is considered to have been the ultimate sacrifice that enabled people to be potentially absolved; this was required to bridge the immensity of mans sins. I do not know how these ideas developed, but I happen to know that after the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. by the Roman armies of Titus the main arguments were developed that helped Christians to explain why Judean animal sacrifice could not be practiced anymore. In the second and third century a core element for this ongoing debate was developed that states that Christ had made the ultimate sacrifice to absolve humanity and that his sacrifice rendered Judean sacrifice superseded and at least inadequate by that time. Christianity changed how sacrifice was conceived of to appease the divine; not a sacrifice of animal flesh, but the self-sacrifice of the martyrs and ascetics. I think that the self-sacrifice of one’s inherent materiality induced a personal reflection that can be considered to have positively contributed to the development of western society; whatever its excesses. Christianity did not introduce it, but it may be considered to have implement it. Christ is almost death for 2000 years now, but you do not have to consider him to have been the son of God to be thoroughly shaped by him. Christianities appropriation of the past and thereby of reality is impressive to say the least and necessitates us to apropiate it in order to advance and finally reset the calander to the year 0 again.
I believe in the possibility of zombies as more likely than the possibility of a all knowing being known as "God". There are many living parasites that could burrow into your brain that may bring you to a state of subconsciousness. Not saying you would crave brains.
Ever read the book "John dies at the end"? Or "This book is full of spiders"? Similar to the topic of the thread. Well sort of. It's well worth a read. It's my personal belief there is no god, there is no first hand written accounts or any legitimate legal or civil documents acknowledging his existance, his "miracles" or his resurrection. It's all a farce.
As much as I like the idea of equivalating Jesus with zombies, I have to argue for the distinction. Zombies are reanimated dead tissue, and a resurrection is the full return of the person. If a person is resurrected, they have been brought back to life as the same individual who died. They will have the same personality (albeit with some likely new neurosis), and will have to eat and breath, etc . . . to continue living. However, if a person was reanimated as a zombie, it is really only the tissue and the physical form that has returned. Very rarely is any of the personality retained ("Bob, is that you?" "Braaaaains" "yup, that's Bob all right"). Also zombies, apart from wanting to eat brains, do not appear to need to eat or breath to live - and I have never seen a zombie portrayed as having to use a restroom. So there is a stark difference between a resurrected person and a reanimated zombie. However, I'd love to read a good argument for the other side.
A better analogy is this. Do you believe in ghost? This isn't a very smart thought out thread. It actually pretty stupid. You better read up on zombies op. Zombies aren't ghost. When your brain is being used as a slurpee it will be too late!! No debate here, because it's doesn't work. Yeah I posted this without reading the thread. So what? The only ghost i believe in are force ghost. Like 2Pac
"Do you believe in ghosts?" is not an analogy, it is a question. But thank you for your usual intelligent contribution, including not reading the thread, or being anywhere near on topic. Someone is off his meds. And attacking me because I verbally embarrassed you? Well, it is a war game, so I guess that's fine .
Technically zombies are people under the influence of other things, real zombies are when people are accidentally buried alive but get dug up before death. Oxygen starvation causes permanent brain damage.
Obviously, an actual discussion would require a universally accepted definition of the term "zombie." I relied on the traditional supernatural version, to go along with the idea of a resurrection (that's why there is no "technically" when discussing zombies). However, under your interpretation of zombies (by no means definitive), we could equate the resurrection with zombieism (to make up a word). The premise would be that zombies are people who are not dead, but just appeared to be dead and were buried. Jesus did not actually die on the cross, but was buried somewhat alive. Thus, Jesus fits the definition of zombie, as per Planemaster, because he, like the other people, was dug up at some point before death. By working with a different definition of zombie and removing resurrections or reanimations from the equation, we now have an argument for the equivalence of zombies with Jesus.
@kingcalm A person that was considered death, but is still alive and dug up or something is simply still alive. If the body has merely vital functions and such severe brain-damage that he has no noticeable conscience anymore, let alone self-conscience, has the person than to be considered death? I would say the body is still alive, but the person is deceased: the person has died. This also applies to the zombies we encounter in movies, games and other fiction. The fiction of Jesus tells us that he was resurrected like a person, unlike a zombie. Both zombies and Jesus can be considered to be resurrected, but only Jesus did so in the true sense of the word, since when we say that the spirit of something is gone we point out that something is essentially gone; like a person that became zombie.
This all depends a lot on your personal belief... As an atheist, I would say that Jesus didn't die on the cross. So for me, there's no way you could compare Jesus to a zombie as I believe (looking at the evidence) that he was never deceased in the first place. However, if you believe the Bible word for word, you could either draw similarities or point out the differences. For example: zombie dies, zombie comes to life; Jesus dies, Jesus comes to life. Alternitavely, you could say that, because Jesus had all his mental faculties, he was intelligent, and so was very different to a zombie. It all depends on which stance you take.