Well , you have to understand your mom - though misguided as she is, she ultimately cares about you. My thinking is that she is distraught because she feels she failed you as a mom; she wants you to be saved and will do anything to help you get saved. Your mom fails to see that being a Christian is primarily an internal thing and not limited to the external. She equates being a Christian as having a moral life and going to church but in reality that does not mean you are a Christian at all. Being a Christian is based on several tenets that you embrace with your whole being: 1) God loves you; 2) all have rejected God and have sinned and will die to face judgement; 3) God sent Jesus to not only die in your place whereby on the cross he took your sins upon himself facing the judgment you deserved but he also lived the righteous life you should have lived and placed on you his righteousness; 4) by believing all this wholeheartedly you are saved and respond accordingly by seeking to know this God and live your life in gratitude. Yes, part of that response includes seeking to live a moral life and attending church but those things alone mean nothing unless tenets have gripped your heart. I suggest the following. Talk to your mom frankly. Tell her that you understand why she is angry but also tell her that these things that she is doing will not save you but only further alienate you from God. Remind her that christianity short of being embraced by the heart and lived out by the will is only a farce and that if she wants you to be saved that she should pray for you instead of forcing it down your throat. Finally, tell her you love her and thank her for loving you. I do suggest a compromise; tell her you will attend church til you graduate high school and that you will explore Christianity as a nonbeliever. I encourage you to sincerely ask questions and consider the merits of Christianity.
No one can force their religion on you. What you believe is just that, what YOU believe. She can't make you believe what she does. Can she try and convert you in a non-forceful way? Yea sure. Nothing wrong with that. Just whether you accept it or not is up to you
I think many of the responses here are poor Op asked how he can not only live as a agnostic and continue having a relationship with his mother. Telling his mom how it's his choice and asking her to respect his decision will not do this nor do I feel that it is appropriate for op to go thru the motions of attending church and fake being a Christian. Personally, I think he should honor his mother's wish to attend church but he should attend as an agnostic until he is ready to move out of the house. He shouldn't flaunt that he is an agnostic but it might be worthwhile to share this truth with any friends he may have at the church and the pastor of the congregation. It might also be good for him to share his issues he is having with the pastor and ask the pastor to talk to his mom on his behalf (issues: mom forcing Christianity down his throat, feeling like his relationship with mom is falling apart). I suggest talking to the pastor because he should be able to mediate and most likely your mom will listen to him.
It's settled then. Gotta kill her. Only way. Tell the police the people in your phone told you to, the cops'll be cool with it.
No^, that'll never work. Hide the body at the bottom of the ocean, no one will suspect that, maybe ur grandma when she does her swimming lessons but then you gotta kill her too. I hope this helps
Stand your ground and be you. You will get a lot of hate from people when they learn you are a non-believer. It's honestly what pushed me from agnostic to fill out atheist.
That's wrong. There are 3 types of agnostic. Theist Agnostic; means you believe is an after life but do know know which religion/God(s), if any, is real. True Agnostic; Means you hold no knowledge to an afterlife and state you just don't know if one exist or not. Atheist Agnostic; Means you don't believe in an afterlife but admit that their May be one because you truly don't know.
When I told my family I was atheist they told me to go through confirmation classes and then I could decide on what I really was.. Maybe you could make this deal with your mom, they suck, but it's better than ruining your relationship with her
I even don't know if why even the other Christians force others to come back... I thought that it was only in the other religions but then..... yeah.... A real Christian show their respect to God by doing good deeds and not by just praising him just because you know that he will protect you without caring about the people around you. It is better to show it and not to force to it I guess... I kinda forgot the saying....
Set up a satanic shrine in your closet Ask mummy to help you find your favourite jacket Point to closet Profit
The answers that people have been saying here have really confirmed some impressions Basically, if you look at the responses you see the worldview of the person responding. We all have a worldview which we use as a lens to see the world, how we see ourselves and others and we use it to dictate how we act in this world. Either you have a Christian worldview, a theistic worldview (other religions) or a non-theistic (self-centered) worldview (I would argue that there are many who can claim to be Christians yet are inconsistent and in reality live out this worldview rather than a Christian one). In terms of this forum post you see 2 worldviews really, the Christian and the non-theistic worldview (there is more to it than I put down below but I would like to be succinct and these worldviews can be broken down further). Christian worldview says - Consider how you should love those around you…those different from you and those close to you such as your parents - Consider how to love those you have conflict with and use Jesus as a model - Your life has a purpose and God created you and you have a part to play in his meta-narrative so be salt and light in this world that lacks flavor and oftentimes is dark and be a blessing to others because you have been blessed A non-theistic worldview says - Your relationships should meet your needs and if they don’t…they aren’t worth your attention - If you have conflict, you must overcome them and exact revenge if you need to - Ultimately, your life has no purpose and it is all about you so live now and do what you want and be a hedonist – don’t let anyone keep you from enjoying life Personally speaking, it’s easy to live individualistically and live at times as if God didn’t exist but by grace I find myself being challenged to turn away from this worldview and re-embrace the Christian worldview. It is always a challenge to live out the Christian life authentically and sincerely.
@unstoppabletiger I do need the reward of paradise or punishment of hell as an incentive for moral conduct. Actually, people who do, do not truly act morally, since to act morally is an end to itself and should have nothing to do with personal happiness, be it here or in the afterlife. If you want to consider that self-centered you are absolutely right, since morally sound conduct resides in the autonomous sincere deliberation to act for the good, not your personal good. This acting for the good can undermine my personal good, interest and happiness. Unlike it is the case with your cowardice Christian slave mentality where everything for the good ultimately is also done out of fear for your personal happiness in the afterlife.
No discussion of afterife was stated earlier But I do not disagree that anyone who acts morally good out of a fear of damnation is acting self centered. But the fact is if anyone calls identies themselves as a Christian due to a fear of punishment or some desire to attainment "paradise" - that person has not really considered what it is entailed to be a Christian and of course he is acting self centered. The gospel (summed up in the tennents I stated earlier) is not based on the "I will earn my passage in to paradise" mentality - you can't earn your way into heaven. Either you truely believe what I stated earlier or you do not. If you do not - you can go to church 7 days a week, give millions of dollars to charity and serve the poor in 3rd world countries, however you cannot buy your way into heaven. I don't know why ppl think they can bribe their way into heaven. Any good that I do does not merit paradise; my actions are out of a thankful response of being given what I do not deserve (grace) and as long as I embrace the tennents of gospel with all my heart, mind and soul...what God has given will never be taken from me. Most ppl cannot accept or understand the gospel because they approach it with this belief that they need to earn it or if I don't act good enough I might lose it. This is what encouraged "slave" mentality. They feel, when God says when you embrace these truths you are saved, that there is some catch where you need to prove yourself. The gift is given before you do anything and whatever you do is a response is out of gratitude. How does one know if they are saved? These tennents must be embrace wholistically. If these truths do not break your heart and fill you with passionate love then you are not "saved." Also since paradise was brought up, I want to challenge to notion that it is some utopian country club. No one really knows what "paradise" will be like but I know that what makes it truely amazing is that you finally get to meet and know in a personal way the God who made you, suffered for you, saved you and loves you.