The devs are weak and gave in to pressure by listening to sore monkeys. Hmm soremonkey...athinkingape..I get the link. Monkey bros. Anw like someone mentioned, I'm sure alot of others have done it as well but not open to public, I doubt they had their wins reset. So, I personally feel your reason does not validate the reset.
At first this was a surprise discovery of an unintended effect from a loophole in the game logic. However, that loophole was clearly exploited and used to climb the battles LB. While I sympathize with 24 & poly, I agree with the devs decision. Allowing the resulting wins to stand would have damaged game balance in a way unfair to others attempting to progress as was intended via established game mechanics. If the wins gained were not so ridiculously out of aligment with other players there would have been no need to reset them. All this said, I fully expect that most will disagree with the dev's decision because their interest is personal and their opinions severely biased by that personal perspective. There's nothing wrong with that persective as it stems from a human desire for fairness to individuals. But that is no way to run a game, society, business or any other organization structure. Game balance is more important than a few hurt feelings. Just my opinion of course...
I'm just saying it's not their fault that many people hit them. They were using an OSF form others have used and were punished when others weren't.
They were not punished - the wins were restored to pre-exploit. Also, they did in fact encourage the # of hits by advertising as OSFs. They continued to do so after learning about the exploit. Leaving those wins would put all players who did not abuse the exploit at a disadvantage.
My first post - iMO they should keep wins. If you remove their wins because of an exploitation. You should remove their losses as well. Seems logical if one may be retroactive, so should the other. Thanks
But there are a lot of players who have used the same exploit and still use it, just not on a scale as large as ours. The devs know exactly how many wins each player has from attacking and how many from defending against an attack... why not remove the wins from defending against an attack from everybody who was attacked by a weaker player, then? I bet that we would see some surprises on the wins LB :mrgreen: We should at least be allowed to keep as many "defensive" wins as people who are on the wins LB have, don't you think? As a matter of fact, we should be rewarded because we were not trying to hide it in any way (unlike others do). I honestly did not think that I would get away with it, and a lot of the people that talk to me in Pal know that. I kept doing it because I was really helping out KaW by being an OSF for everyone. The def. towers were there to give higher plunder and to make the gold last longer. And several people asked me to add more towers. So, as I said many times, I don't care about the wins. I do care, however, about fair treatment, and the treatment we received was not fair. The "making the game better" and the "running the business" bit do not work either... maybe the 100,000 wins were going to unbalance the game, but the devs took away even the wins we had on the day after they reset our wins the first time. Most people had not even noticed those, and they were not affecting the game that much. As a matter of fact, I bet that there are people on the wins LB that have more "defensive" wins than those we got on that last day. So, why take those away? I really don't care about the wins, but I would like an honest answer from the devs... one that actually makes sense. They said that it was not the way they intended the game to be played... well, they know who the people exploiting this system of the "defensive" wins are. Why aren't those wins taken away? That is not the way they intended the game to be played either.... The truth is that, as usual, the snicky people get rewarded, and the nice ones get screwed. Oh, well, we enjoy being nice anyway All that said, this is the devs game, and will always be that way. I will take what I get, roll with the punches, and keep playing if I feel like it. No matter what, this is still BY FAR the best game I have played on the iPod. And I only have the devs to thank for that. The recent developments will not take that away, because the past seven months playing KaW have been AWESOME!! Thanks, Devs!
Support for pa and 24dude wins. Removing an exploit as innocent as this while others persist seems silly and a waste of time. I'm sure others ahead of them found other ways to gain in their rank.
I also agree with nyn. I think exploits should be reported and fixed to ensure the longevity and continuation of balance in a game. Requiring the use of exploits to get ahead- which if the wins were reinstated- would. Destroys balance. I feel that many of these posts are indeed biased because many jumped on the charity train of money that brought in those wins.
About removing the losses... please don't I don't care about the wins, but I do care about the losses, which are a testament to my service to KaW
Devs always Punish , those that excel and reward those that Blantantly cheat . As everyone knows to whom I am referencing I will not state their name . for fear the Devs will ban me for saying different.!!!!!!!!!
Devs time would be better spent getting rid of bots and cheats rather than worrying about ppl who have helped so many ppl in KAW... Who cares about the wins? It's no worse than getting there hitting inactives.
Ok here's the deal. It has been suggested that I remove half my spy towers and replace them with def towers and the likelihood is if there is gold out I may get attacked LOTS and win proportionally more than when I was . Will these wins be legit or will the devs continue to reset them because they aren't the wins they like? Any thoughts?
Devs if u take away there wins u need to do the same for everyone!!! How do u think top 5 wins got 80,000 wins same way from weak people attacking them it's the same loop hole why punish 2 when a bunch more go unpunished!!!
Wins should definitely not have been reset. That is just plain silly! And for the record I am not biased as both 24dude and Pollyanna did not pay me enough to make it worthwhile to hit them. I think that people who have spent more than $100 on a game within one year should be counted as an exploit as well as it is not fair and balanced for the rest of us who cannot spend that kind of money on a GAME. I have only spent $7.96 on this game in 7 months and am proud of my ranking and position.
Battlestar...you are indeed correct on the biased part for some people...but a lot of people here are veterans, and are tired if devs nerfing build after build, and see them changing something that was legit is infuriating, as it seems to devs are out to kill the game that we have devoted much upon
In my opinion, if you have no soldiers or spies, you're not really playing the game anyway. Do you guys really get off on seeing your battle stats rise? And who gives a crap if you've got 100k wins. Are you having any fun doing it? I can't believe this pathetic excuse for a thread has gone on this long.