Your opinions on the verdict.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by iDeception, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. my words will be in red. Tldr; read the bottom
    Nearly two years after two pressure-cooker bombs ripped through a crowd of unsuspecting spectators near the finish line of the 2013 Boston Marathon, a federal jury found Dzhokhar Tsarnaev guilty for his role in the deadly attacks, which killed three and injured nearly 300.

    The decision came a day and a half after seven women and five men began deliberations in the first phase of the trial and after 17 days of emotional and often gruesome testimony and evidence in the case. Jurors repeatedly saw horrific photos and videos of the bloody aftermath of the bombs. They also heard heart-wrenching testimony from survivors, including the father of the youngest victim of the attacks—8-year-old Martin Richard--whose body was literally blown apart by the second bomb.

    Federal prosecutors painted Tsarnaev as a heartless killer who conspired with his older brother, Tamerlan, to maim and kill Americans in retaliation for the country's wars on Muslim countries overseas. "This was a cold, calculated terrorist act. This was intentional. It was bloodthirsty. It was to make a point," government prosecutor Aloke Chakravarty told jurors Monday. "It was to tell America that ‘We will not be terrorized by you anymore. We will terrorize you.'"

    Tsarnaev faced 30 charges for his role in the bombings, the deadliest act of terrorism on American soil since September 11, 2001. He was also charged with shooting and killing Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Sean Collier days after the attacks and hours after the FBI released photos of him and his brother identifying them as suspects in the bombings. Though prosecutors acknowledged they were unsure which brother pulled the trigger, both were "equally guilty" of Collier's murder.

    The verdict in the case wasn’t surprising. Judy Clarke, Tsarnaev’s attorney, admitted her client’s role in the attacks on day one of the trial, which began March 5, and reiterated it during closing arguments this week. “There is no excuse. No one is trying to make one,” Clarke told jurors Monday, calling the attack “inexcusable” and “senseless.”

    But she cast Tsarnaev, now 21, as a troubled teenager who came under the sway of his radicalized older brother, whom the defense painted as the ringleader of the plot. They have argued Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed during a shootout with police days after the bombings, plotted the attack and built the bombs—and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev merely followed.

    “We don’t deny that Dzhokhar fully participated in the events,” Clarke said. “But, if not for Tamerlan, it wouldn’t have happened.”

    Yet Judge George O’Toole limited how much the defense could talk about Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s influence on his brother during the guilt phase of the trial. While the government put 92 witnesses on the stand over 16 days, Tsarnaev’s defense rested after just four witnesses over a day and a half in court. Clarke told jurors the defense would lay out more of their case in the penalty phase—when they determine whether the 21-year-old college student receives life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty for his role in the attacks.

    Though the penalty portion of the case has long been expected to be more drawn out than the guilt phase, it’s unclear how long the defense’s case might be or who they plan to put on the stand to explain what pushed their client into terrorism. It’s also not clear how much the defense will be able to delve into the role of Tamerlan Tsarnaev and the troubled history of the Tsarnaev family, which had been believed to be the focus of their case.

    A courthouse source told Yahoo News that wrangling continues between the government and defense over proposed witnesses in the penalty phase. The defense has long sought to explore Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s possible link to a 2011 triple murder in Waltham, Mass .—but the government has argued, and the judge has so far agreed, the subject is irrelevant.

    It’s also a mystery who might testify on behalf of the defendant to ask that his life be spared. The witness list in the trial remains under seal, and many former friends and associates of Tsarnaev, who have publicly spoken of their shock at his involvement in the plot, have declined to say anything further about the teenager they knew. Asked if they’ve been summoned by the defense to testify, many associates contacted by Yahoo News refused to comment.

    It’s also not clear if any members of the Tsarnaev family will testify. Since the trial began, not a single member of the Tsarnaev family has been seen at the courthouse—including Tsarnaev’s parents, who live in Dagestan, and his sisters, who live in New Jersey. Last summer, Tsarnaev’s sister, Ailina, told reporters her brothers had been “framed.” Tsarnaev’s uncles, who live in Maryland, also have not been seen in court and did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

    The same 12 jurors who decided on Tsarnaev’s guilt will now decide whether he lives or dies for his role in in the attacks. That’s expected to be the trickier dilemma for the jury. Though all jurors agreed they could consider capital punishment for Tsarnaev, many people in Massachusetts oppose the death penalty for moral and religious reasons. It was declared unconstitutional on the state level in 1982, and though many in Boston are still recovering from the trauma of the attacks, which paralyzed the city for days, residents have mixed feelings about what should happen to Tsarnaev.

    A recent WBUR poll conducted after the trial began found a majority of Boston residents believe Tsarnaev should receive life in prison instead of the death penalty. Victims of the bombings have offered mixed opinions about Tsarnaev’s fate. The Richard family has said they just want “justice.”

    The penalty phase is expected to begin next week.

    Saw this on yahoo news, copied and pasted. What are your opinions?
    Do you think he was guilty of all counts? And the murder of the police officer, although they did not know who pulled the trigger.

    I think that justice was rightly served, next week he might be sentenced to death (most likely).
     
  2. not really worth my time to read

    why do people always post stuff like this on the forums for a 9 game 
     
  3. If it's not worth your time to read then how can it possibly be worth your time to comment 
     
  4. Should get the electric chair lol... Why should we pay tax dollars to keep this worthless terrorist alive? :roll:
     
  5. They don't do the electric chair anymore because people complaining it was 'cruel and unusual', most likely it will be lethal injection.

    As for me posting debate threads, I like to see people's reasoning
     
  6. Forums were designed to be a mature place for people to come together and discuss their opinions on numerous topics.

    Obviously that turned out swell.
     
  7. In all honesty if I were to comment on the subject, it is not worth tax payers money.

    He ruined thousands of lives directly and indirectly and should be dealt with accordingly.

    But, welcome to America.
     
  8. Are you sure? I think in some states they have the electric chair as an option, but it's mostly a secondary form of execution.


    *EDIT: Massachusetts doesn't use the electric chair anymore.
     
  9. "As of 2014 [update], the only places in the world which still reserve the electric chair as an option for execution are the U.S. states of Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Virginia. (Arkansas and Oklahoma laws provide for its use should lethal injection ever be held to be unconstitutional.)"
     
  10. Boston is in Massachusetts, I believe that's where he is being tried
     
  11. I thought you meant that in general the US outlawed the electric chair from being used. It's probably either going to be gas chamber or lethal injection.
     
  12. Googled 
     
  13. Hope he burns, haven't looked into it enough but I really hope they found him guilty of killing his brother just to kick him while he's down.
     
  14. ^
    Are you actually stupid they said his brother died in a police shootout
     
  15. Hell take him to Texas they have a express lane for animals like that
     
  16. Did a thing on the death penalty in college... I say he deserves death. Eye for an eye, if he's already been through all the court cases and all that to put him to death, do it. Don't waste money keeping him in jail.
     
  17. Seventeen of Tsarnaev's convictions are capital charges, meaning he's eligible for the death penalty. The trial will move into a penalty phase, where the jury will hear testimony and arguments from both sides and ultimately be tasked with deciding whether he gets the death penalty or life in prison.

    That's what federal prosecutors are now focusing on, said Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts. "We are gratified by the jury's verdict and thank everyone who played a role in the trial for their hard work," Oritz said, declining to comment further.

    Tsarnaev's attorney, Judy Clarke, is one of the nation's foremost experts on keeping clients off death row. She has successfully fought for the lives of Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, and Jared Loughner, the gunman who killed a judge and wounded former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
    For weeks, Clarke has been laying the groundwork for her argument to persuade the jury to spare Tsarnaev's life.
    But a date for the penalty phase of the trial has not yet been set.

    Blue is about the trial, I read that the trial might be held next week. His options are life without parole and the death penalty, I want him to get the death penalty
     
  18. Fry the kid
     
  19. The Boston Marathon attacks were one of the worst terrorist attacks I've ever heard of. (I was only a baby when 9/11 took place) When I got home from school that day, my mom was crying, and frantically trying to call all my cousins that live in Boston, asking if they were OK. Then I looked up at the TV....

    Then I wanted the sick individuals that did this to rot in hell. These were people who were having a peaceful day at the Marathon when they were suddenly attacked. Many people were killed and even more people were injured.

    One of the idiots was killed in a police chase. That was justice I thought. There was still one more left, and I wanted to see what was coming to him.

    The idiot should be executed. Seems right for injuring so many people and killing so many people. No person like that should be walking around. Stop wasting time and get to the warrant of execution.
     
  20. I think imma go to any website and copy and past it here