*Volling Formulaes and Quests* MATHS INVOLVED

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by 510, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Introduction


    This is just showing a bunch of formulae, with a tonne of math behind them. I guess you wouldn't support if you didn't wanna see the technical side of things.. Enjoy.


    In Kingdoms At War allies can make huge profits for a player. Most players rapidly become aware that hitting Epic Battles especially high paying ones like Haunts can easily earn them 1-2,000,000,000 an hour and for those dedicated enough to login in every hour for say 15 hours a day that can mean almost 30,000,000,000 a day in profit.

    But those earnings are limited and without using crystals which cost real money it can take a long time to “build complete” unlock all lands and put the highest level of buildings on each land and max their levels. To unlock every land in the game will cost you a staggering 2,021,803,735,000 (that’s trillion!) gold. On top of that cost depending on the final buildings that you choose you will spend another 4,000,000,000,000 gold. If you earn 30,000,000,000 a day it will take you 200 days to pay for everything.

    Starting out though you will need to work up to those kinds of figures so you could be looking at almost a complete year of play and that is as long as you never get involved in any wars and only spend your money on lands and buildings (which means you spent nothing on added attack and defence for your kingdom by buying potions).

    Note: You can speed up your early growth by reading this hub.

    So while you are making money on cash rich Epic Battles what you should also be doing is making money from Ally Trading. The amount of money you can make doing this is limitless. There is no limit to the number times allies can be bought and sold each day.

    Ally Money Mechanics

    (This section can seem complicated at first because of the figures and maths involved. But these examples are for illustration and to help you understand what happens when you buy and sell allies. The exact figures are not important as you will find as your experience grows you will get a fell for what kind of money you will be making!)




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    Each player begins the game with a base price of 10,000 gold. Each time that player is bought their price goes up by 5% (rounded down to the nearest whole number at each step). This cumulative increase makes a players price grow slowly at first. For example by the time a player is hired:

    100 times their price would be 1,251,184
    200 times their price would be 164,531,274
    300 times their price would be 21,636,068,299
    400 times their price would be 2,845,170,194,990
    (The most expensive player in the game has been hired 430 times)

    What is very important about each hire is that a portion of that 5% gets distributed as profit to the players:

    Approximately 1.6% goes to the player being hired*

    *This is a capped earning though. The most that can be earned for being hired is 1,000,000 gold; which means that once your price hits approximately 67,000,000 you hit the limit.

    Approximately 1.6% goes to the player selling the Ally**

    ** This profit is uncapped. Which means for example if you hire an ally at 100,000,000,000 your will earn just under 1,600,000,000 gold in a single transaction.

    So if Player A has an ally that costs 10,196,681 (he therefore paid 9,711,125 for him) and Player B buys him the result is this:

    Ally: receives 163,146 (1.6% profit of 10,196,681) for being hired
    Player A: gets 9,711,125 (ally’s original price) back + 155,378 (1.6% profit)
    Player B: pays 10,196,681 for the ally and now owns him at his new price of 10,706,515
    So everyone is making a profit at this stage. But now take the same scenario and alter the allies’ price. So if Player A has an ally that costs 2,080,137,245 (he therefore paid 1,981,083,091 for him) and Player B buys him the result is this:

    Ally: receives 1,000,000 for being hired (capped value)
    Player A: gets 1,981,083,091 (ally original price) + 31,697,329 (1.6% profit)
    Player B: pays 2,080,137,245 for the ally and now owns him at his new price of 2,184,144,107
    So very quickly you get to the stage where if you are the person being hired you are making very little money compared to the people doing the hiring. In short always make sure you are the one hiring for the biggest profit!

    What to be careful of?
    Really, there arent many things that you need to be careful of that arent already mentioned.

    However, with current ally market climates, some good allies are overpriced by quite a bit. Be careful when hiring these, as you can and will likely be farmed by their owner for the gold they lost in rehire, or just for hiring even. Shopping from pin is a good idea here.

    Buying for stats alone - This is particularly key in middle ranges (generally above reset range and below HLBC). Activity is something that should be checked if you want allies to sell the fastest. Some allies have eratic activity, and it is a good idea to stay away from these, and go for allies that show consistency, and are always active, with regard for sleep times as well. This comes into accordance with hits per eb, and earnings. Big earners with big hit totals are good allies, but again, consistency is better than one off's.
    “Volleying” an Ally

    A “volley” is where a player is repeatedly hired over and over again between two or more players in a short space of time. For every billion gold that a player’s price is raised through hiring, the players who are doing the hiring will share approximately 320 million gold profit.

    Generally a player will volley an ally if they feel the ally is under-priced and want to raise their price to where they feel it should be. Or if they wish to over price the ally to ensure that no-one is likely to buy the ally from them. There are also opportunistic volleys when a player resets or when new player enter the game.

    It is safest to volley with a friend or clan mate in the game and some players will volley allies between multiple account they own in order to keep as much of the profit that they own. There is a danger in volleying allies with people you don’t know as they may scam you. The scam is simply that they announce they want to volley one of their allies up to a named price. However as soon as you buy the ally from them they simply don’t buy back which leaves you stuck with the ally. In these cases the ally is overpriced and unlikely ever to sell.


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    Ty for reading.






    Slang- There are lots of slang words for Kingdoms at War. Here are a few of the main slang terms.

    KaW- Kingdoms at War

    LB- LeaderBoard

    WC- World Chat

    CC- Clan Chat

    AC- Ally Chat

    Pal- Palringo

    Pin- When a defender is "Too Weak"

    Sit- To keep a defender "Too Weak"

    Volley- Hiring 1 person back and forth

    Farming- To hit 1 person over 5x daily

    OSF- Open Secret Farm

    Pots- Items from The Marketplace

    LC- Land Complete (Buying all lands)

    DTW- Defender Too Weak

    PM- Private Message

    BUMP- Bring Up My Post (Forums)

    Devs- The developers of Kingdoms at War

    ToU- Terms of Use

    Bypassing- Modifying a word to get past the filter

    Stats- Your BTA (located on profile)

    Nobs- Nobility Points

    Maxed- LC with all fully upgraded buildings

    Regen- Regeneration period, where you get more troops/spies

    Full- To have all of your soldiers/spies

    Lurking- Being in a chat but not talking

    Sub- A Subterranean Factory

    T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, T6- Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, Tier 4, Tier 5, Tier 6

    Lv- Level (of building)

    Attk- Attack

    Def- Defense

    Scout Bomb- To scout someone a lot

    Assa- To Assassinate someone

    Keep- Owning an ally

    BL- Battle List

    Circ- Summoning Circle

    Av- War Aviary

    Plunder- The gold you earn from an attack

    Ally Plunder- The gold your allies give you

    Tax- The amount of gold taken away in war

    BTA- Bonus To Allies

    BFA- Bonus From Allies

    K- Thousand

    M/Mil- Million

    Bil/B- Billion

    Strip- Hire allies and farm a player

    HLC- Bought all of the lands in The Highlands

    HLBC- Bought all of the lands in The Highlands with Lvl3 T5 Buildings

    HFC - Bought all of the lands in The Hoarfrost Lands

    HFLC - Bought all of the lands in the Hoarfrost Lands with Lvl3 T6 buildings

    EB- Epic Battle.

    TFO- The Forgotten Ones (EB)

    BR- Battle Royale (EB)

    NML- No Mans Land (EB)

    Haunt- The Haunting (EB)

    NQ- No Quarter (EB)

    CotD- City of the Dead (EB)

    FoD- Figure of Death (EB)

    ToC- Talons of Carnage (EB)

    NG- New Growth (EB)

    SS- Scionic Storm (EB)

    SR- Sporavek's Revenage (EB)

    TBO- The Barren Orchard (EB)

    TT- Terrain Travails (EB)

    CtT- Crossing the Threshold (EB)

    CoR- Cave of Riches (EB)

    TGL- The Gilded Lord (EB)

    StP - Storm the Palace (EB)

    VD - Viper's Den (EB)

    DS - Desert Stine (EB)

    ACC - A Cold Calling (EB)

    VP - Vanished Paladin (EB)

    FC - Frozen City (EB)

    WW - Wasteland Wilds (EB)

    GS - Glacial Squall
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    You are now going to another section, I would say it deserved a new thread post but it'll be considered as spam.

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    Introduction


    The Quest section of Kingdoms At War has remained largely unchanged for the entire time the game has been available for download. This really stands out when looking at the gold you are rewarded for completing the quests. The figures are really low when you consider you could earn so much more doing Epic Battle item phases.



    Quests for Crystals, Nobility and Achievements

    That said quests are still useful for two (possibly 3 depending on your outlook on game completion) reasons.

    First the quests offer crystals as a bonus at fixed points; these crystals are used for regenerating your troops and spies which is very useful using them on other players or Epic Battles can earn you a lot of extra money. The only other source of crystals is to purchase them and if you only bought one at a time it is going to cost you just under a dollar for the privilege. Crystals have been dropped from quests randomly but the drop rate is so small it has not been successfully measured by players.

    Second every time you successfully complete a quest there is small chance that you will receive a nobility point. Various players have run tests to determine the probability of a nobility award with varying figures from 0.73% up to 2%. The generally accepted figure is a 1% approximate drop rate. Nobility points can be used for a number of in game actions. You can buy propacks, change your name regenerate your troops or exchange the points directly for gold.

    Lastly quest completion does provide you with an achievement for quest mastery. Getting the achievement gives no bonus to your account unlike some of the other achievements.


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    (The KAW Quest Menu)




    Mastering a Quest?


    Well you want to know what's in it for you, look below!

    ((((1- Excavate- 5k
    2- The Search for Treasure- 13k
    5- Escort Convoy - Level 1 Achievement
    10- Protect your Land- Level 2 Achievement
    13- To the Rescue- 211.2k, 2 Crystals
    16- Rescue the Princess- 272k, 2 Crystals
    20- For Revenge- 480k, 2 Crystals
    24- Battle at Valhalla- 368k, 2 Crystals
    25- Stealing Business- Level 3 Achievement
    27- Theft- 844.8k, 2 Crystals
    29- Raiding Mission- 1.4m, 3 Crystals
    32- Fighting Giants- 2m, 3 Crystals
    35- Pirate Defense- Unknown Money, 3 Crystals
    37- No Fly Zone- 20m
    50- Melting Point- Level 4 Achievement
    56- Icy Grip- 30m, 5 Crystals
    59- Living Dead- 17m
    61- The Darkness- 20m
    69- Enemy's Gate- 500m, 10 Crystals, Level 5 Achievement
    ))))

    Work In Brackets () Is Cos_Dillybar's work. Shoutout to him.

    Thanks for reading, took a while doing and posting On KAW site too. Peace!
     
  2. Info is already out there but still thanks for the effort. Read the entire thing good read.
     
  3. I've noticed there's a bug where I put (Kaw quest menu under build) I don't know how I missed that in proof reading, sorry guys.  Will fix Later on.
     
  4. Could you copy paste a few more sections onto this? Maybe wulf's thread too?

    Maybe make a guide to the guide of links of all stickied threads. :roll:
     

  5. Did this legit, apart from the part i said i've copied a little 4-6 sentences, find me something else that i copied.. I wouldn't copy in the first place because the only reason i post these is to help other people in the kaw game and so that new people can have a better start than i had ever had.

    :|
     
  6. Maths is all wrong, it's much more than 2T to unlock all lands.
     
  7. Thanks for pointying I out will try n fix
     
  8. This exact same type of thread was made for both subjects just with more precise info. But the exact statistics were shown.... I wish I could say I was impressed but it looks like you just copied the same info. Switched some numbers and wrote a huge paragraph. Also a very detailed quest guide has been stickied
     
  9. Just shut up if you've come to hate, I'm sorry but it's annoying.
     
  10. And I say u took the info and copied it because the other thread was made before HF lands and this has been made after HF lands. And yet. The same price to unlock all lands??? I'm sorry but HF alone is more expensive that HL and LL combined. This is your second thread like this. Be original otherwise you won't receive support in forums
     
  11. Hitting me because you can't hit someone your own size
     
  12. Mlgmerk plagiarism is against the tou. Watch out next time....
     
  13. No copying. All info is all mine and part that isn't is in paragraph and Shoutout has been rewarded instead.. Where is this from aye? Give us all a link
     
  14. Lmfao good job kid. You have broken the law and the games tou. And now when ur confronted with it you respond with that? Grow up
     
  15. Come on dude I don't see a link, no evidence. No proof. This is 99% my work which I confront, the other 1% is that paragraph
     
  16. Isn't it more like 30T to get HFBC? That's what build Calc told me
     
  17. Please stop with the bs threads and get off forums
     
  18. I still offered you assistance and you refused to accept it.