Virtual Planet Colonization discussion

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Nathan_WINNING, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. People often talk about colonizing planets. Creating atmospheres, making bio systems, etc.

    This is all very expensive and will probably never come to fruition. Humans need very specific conditions in which to survive, so changing the climate of a whole planet just so you can walk around outside there isn't really feasible.

    However, I have another idea.

    Why not use robots instead? Think about it, someone sends a robotic humanoid controlled by a human instead of an actual human who can use solar panels or wind power on Mars to stay charged. They can acquire resources to space ship back to the mother country on Earth. Once the operator dies you can upload his consciousness to the robot and he can continue living on Mars, shipping stuff back to Earth. Maybe Earth could send 3-D printer plans to Mars to create tools for Martians to use after acquiring resources.

    It could start out with little man-controlled drones with solar panels that shovel crap into a rocket ship that will go to Earth.

    Then it could develop towards burning things to develop energy. Technological advances may allow mining to develop and become profitable when Earth's resources are depleted. Martian energy production would help with this (electricity-powered slingshot to Earth?)

    This will help with Earth's resource consumption and prevent humanity's downfall. It will also bring us closer to the next frontier.

    Also with the whole consciousness thing: you could theoretically cure mental disabilities and all physical disabilities. You could make 1,000,000 Stephen Hawkings to find the solutions to problems.

    But this is just getting disturbing now. I'm quite scared of the thought of 1,000,000 robot clones.

    Is it possible?
    Is it ethical?
    Is it a smart thing to do?
    Is it NECESSARY to do?


    Discuss!
     
  2. science fiction.

    you are making it seem like human beings aren't obsessed with controlling their local environment. heating/air conditioning in our homes, cars, and at work. we can build ships that let people live under water for months at a time. or in space.

    why do you think it would me easier to make a robot capable of holding a human's consciousnesses than to make a livable environment on another planet?
     
  3. I don't know.. I feel like there is a difference between physically being there and only having robotics there. We would need to be present
     
  4. The main idea is colonization using robots as tools to acquire resources, not using robots as things in which your consciousness may live after you die. I should make that clear. It's not impossible to acquire resources since we could develop the technology within a few years and already have robots on Mars.

    The idea is that instead of changing the environment to suit human needs, we just use means that allow the same level of human interaction with the environment without having to make the planet habitable.
     
  5. still, robots aren't versatile enough to take the place of humans. far easier to make a contained environment than to make a robot that can do the variety of tasks that a human being can.
     
  6. One word iRobot!
     
  7. Only tasks robots need to do are their job their tasks (whatever they may be), and stay repaired. The repair part may be an issue, but I think that a simple repair robot couple with a sensory damage system could solve that. It could be divided into 20 or so easily accessible components and if one breaks, a stock of new parts would be available for repairbot to take off and put on.
     
  8. a "colonisation" of Mars is IMO the future of humanity.

    Seeing how we are currently messing up this planet with radioactive waste and all kinds of things related to global warming, in the near future earth will propably become uninhabitable in most places due to climate changes.

    a colonisation of Mars (or other moons/planets) would give us the opertunity to start over and learn from our mistakes.


    And to answer the question "is it possible?".
    Yes.

    the only problem with humans living on mars is the temperature and a lack of a good atmosphere. both of those can already be solved with current technology.
     
  9. Has sky net become self aware?
     
  10. no, not yet...maybe later. ill be back with more info
     
  11. Ehh... I disagree.

    Mars will never be habitable because humans would have to be genetically reengineered so out bodies wouldn't disintegrate. Also Mars has no molten core like Earth so its magnetic field wouldn't protect humans very well (genetic engineering can out with that). However, magnetic field wouldn't save Mars' atmosphere from being shred apart. It will probably be forever inhabitable by humans.

    But is is habitable by robots.
     
  12. biomes would be a solution to the atmosphere problem. and a magnetic field isnt neccesary when the biomes provide enough protection.

    the only thing different from earth would be less gravity, which would actually be funny :lol:
     
  13. No I don't wan to discuss
     
  14. Less gravity causes degeneration of bones, which causes death more easily.

    Therefore there is a need for genetic engineering (to stop the degeneration) if that is to be possible.
     
  15. Yes, it's possible.
     
  16. or if we would remain in good condition by doing fitness there every day, way better than genetic engeneering lol
     
  17. Too long to read but i agree :)
     
  18. I'm wondering how much of this 'information' has come from movies
     
  19. Many things that are possible today seemed impossible 50, 100, or 500 plus years ago.

    It will most likely happen, whether it be 3 or 5000 years.
     
  20. We can't just build robot's. If we are to survive, we must move off the earth eventually.

    Mars is not impossible to Terra form. It would certainly not be earth-comfortable
    but it can and probably will be to some extent.

    Mars atmosphere. Its less than 1/50th of earth but this is no impassable hurdle. You can set up stations to release green house gases into the Martian atmosphere, densing it up, raising the temperature. This will cause what water there is in the atmosphere to fall as rain which in turn cause weathering, releasing further carbon monoxide locked up in rocks. Water will milt from polar ice caps providing surface water in addition to the rainfall.

    The new atmosphere this will create will never be breathable. It will never become that dense. Mars simply isn't massive enough to retain an atmosphere the way the Earth does, but it is possible to only need a respirator.

    The surface gravity is 38% that of earth's so where this will cause some problems and obvious evolutionary changes as we adapt to a new environment, this doesn't seem as though it will be unsurmountable. Between such things as work out routines and waited clothing, I am sure this could be thought through.

    A week magneto sphere will keep the ground well irradiated. Nobody will be able to remain outside exposed for longer than minutes. In the best circumstances, Mars will support only a small population, small even for its size. It just doesn't have the capacity or resources , but it is destined to be a way point to other places and perhaps it will only have a small population compared to earth. Maybe one day if Human beings survive so long, Mars will have the second largest human population in the solar system.