THE BAR CARD AS PER THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT; The practice of Law CAN NOT be licensed by any state/State. (Schware v. Board of Examiners, 353 U.S. 238, 239) The practice of Law is AN OCCUPATION OF COMMON RIGHT! (Sims v. Aherns, 271 S.W. 720 (1925)) The "CERTIFICATE" from the State Supreme Court: ONLY authorizes, The practice of Law "IN COURTS" as a member of the STATE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. Can ONLY represent WARDS OF THE COURT, INFANTS, PERSONS OF UNSOUND MIND (SEE CORPUS JURIS SECUNDUM, VOLUME 7, SECTION 4.) "CERTIFICATE" IS NOT A LICENSE to practice Law AS AN OCCUPATION, nor to DO BUSINESS AS A LAW FIRM!!! The "STATE BAR" CARD IS NOT A LICENSE!!! It is a "UNION DUES CARD". The "BAR" is a "PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION." 1. Like the Actors Union, Painters Union, etc. 2. No other association, EVEN DOCTORS, issue their own license. ALL ARE ISSUED BY THE STATE. It is a NON-GOVERNMENTAL PRIVATE ASSOCIATION. The State Bar is; An Unconstitutional Monopoly. AN ILLEGAL & CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE; Violates Article 2, Section 1, Separation of Powers clause of the U.S Constitution. There is NO POWER OR AUTHORITY for joining of Legislative, Judicial, or Executive branches within a state as the BAR is attempting. "BAR" members have invaded all branches of government and are attempting to control de jure governments as agents of a foreign entity! It is quite simple to see that a great fraud and conspiracy has been perpetrated on the people of America. The American Bar is an offshoot from London Lawyers' Guild and was established by people with invasive monopolistic goals in mind. In 1909 they incorporated this TRAITOROUS group in the state of Illinois and had the State Legislature (which was under the control of lawyers) pass an unconstitutional law that only members of this powerful union of lawyers, called the "ABA," could practice law and hold all the key positions in law enforcement and the making of laws. At that time, Illinois became an outlaw state, and for all practical purposes, they seceded from the United States of America. The "BAR ASSOCIATION" then sent organizers to all the other states and explained to the lawyers there how much more profitable and secure it would be for them, as lawyers, to join this union and be protected by its bylaws and cannons. They issued to the lawyers in each state a charter from the Illinois organization. California joined in 1927 and a few reluctant states and their lawyers waited until the 1930's to join when the treasonous Act became DE FACTO and the Citizen's became captives. Under this system, the lawyers could guarantee prejudged decisions for the privileged class against the lower class. This was all made possible by the AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION to favor their codes and have unlawfully substituted them in place of Constitutional Laws. The Constitution was written in plain English and the Statutes passed by Congress were also in plain English, with the intent of Congress how each law should be used and not the opinions of various Judges as the codes list. Any normal person can read the Constitution and Statutes and understand them without any trouble. The public in California was shocked to learn that the State Government has no control or jurisdiction over the Bar Association or its members. The state does not accredit the law schools or hold Bar examinations. They do not issue state licenses to LAWYERS. The Bar Association accredits all the law schools, holds their private examinations and selects the students they will accept in their organization and issues them so-called license but keeps the fees for themselves. The Bar is the only one that can punish or disbar a Lawyer. They also select the lawyers that they consider qualified for Judgeships and various other offices in the State. Only the Bar Association, or their designated committees, can remove any of these lawyers from public office. The State Legislature will not change this system as they are also a designated committee of the Bar. On August 21, 1984, Rose Bird, Chief Justice of the California State Supreme Court, another of the Bar Associations Judicial Committee's, stated in essence, that the Bar should determine the legality of all initiatives before they were allowed to go on the ballot. This is contrary to both State and Federal Constitutions, as well as the Laws of this Nation instituted By and For the People as a Sovereign UNITY of Independent States of We The People, not a fraudulent Corporate entity of Lawyers. This is a tremendous amount of power for a PRIVATE union that is incorporated and headquartered in Illinois to hold over the Citizens of California or any other state. The only recourse is through this initiative process and vote by the people. After the Founding Fathers had formed the Constitution, outlining the laws as to the way our government was to be run, Thomas Jefferson said, in essence, "This proves that plain people, if given the chance, can enact laws and run a government as well as or better than royalty and the blue bloods of Europe." The American people must stop thinking that lawyers are better than they are and can do a better job than they can before the courts of America. Under the Common Law and the Laws of America, no where is it expressly given for anyone to have the power or the right to form a Corporation. "Corporations" are given birth because of ignorance on the part of the American people and are operating under implied consent and power which they have usurped and otherwise stolen from the people. By RIGHT AND LAW THEY HAVE NO POWER, AUTHORITY, OR JURISDICTION, and must be put out of business by the good Citizens of America in their fight for FREEDOM. The U.S. Constitution GUARANTEES to every state in this union a REPUBLICAN FORM of government. Any other form of government is FORBIDDEN. No public officer or branch of government can be limited to a RULING CLASS of any kind, or the states become ARISTOCRACIES and NOT Republics. Also, the lawyers have made themselves 1st Class Citizens, where many public offices and branches of government are open to lawyers only. All other people are limited to only two branches of government and to only certain offices in those two branches of government, making all people who are non-lawyers into 2nd class subject citizens. When the courts belong to the people, as the United States Constitution REQUIRES, (Article IV, Section 4, we the people, will NEVER rule against themselves.) In these Unconstitutional foreign tribunals "courts" (hoodlum centers), "men" in black dresses, that are Unconstitutional ROBES OF NOBILITY. (Article 1, Section 9 and 10) dispense a perverted ideology, where the people are terrorized by members of the BLACK ROBE CULT (lawyers and lawyer judges in the courtrooms). The legislative branch of government does NOT have the Constitutional Power to issue Court Orders or any other kind of Orders to the people, as a "fiction court" or a "court/corporation for profit and gain" cannot reach parity with a lawful man. ONLY Presidents and Governors have the Constitutional Power to grant PARDONS, but lawyers and lawyer-judges are unconstitutionally granting PARDONS with "immunity from prosecution." Citizens are not permitted to act like people in the courts. The Citizen (2nd class) is told that he does not know how to fill out fancy lawyer forms; that he is not trained in the law; that he does not know court rules and procedures; etc. This is Unconstitutional "lawyer system," only HEARSAY SUBSTITUTES (lawyers) NOT under oath, have access to the fiction/for profit and gain courts, even though ONLY sworn testimony and evidence can be presented in court. Anything else is "Bill of Attainder," NOT permitted under the U.S. Constitution (Article 1, Sections 9 and 10). The U.S. Constitution does NOT give anyone the right to a lawyer or the right to counsel, or the right to any other HEARSAY SUBSTITUTE. The 6th Amendment is very SPECIFIC, that the accused ONLY has the right to the ASSISTANCE of counsel and this ASSISTANCE of counsel CAN BE ANYONE THE ACCUSED CHOOSES WITHOUT LIMITATION. LAWYERS and LAWYER-JUDGES: Created Unconstitutional "lawyer system" pre-trial "motions" and "Hearings" to have eternal EXTORTIONISTIC litigation's, which is BARRATRY and also is in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and Article 1, as this places defendants in DOUBLE JEOPARDY a hundred times over. Defendants only have a right to A TRIAL, NOT TRIALS. When a criminal is freed on a TECHNICALITY, HE IS FREED BECAUSE OF A FIX and a PAY-OFF, as a defendant can only be freed if found innocent BY A JURY NOT BY ANY "TECHNICALITY." Whenever a lawyer is involved in a case directly or indirectly, as a litigant or assisting in counsel, ALL LAWYER-JUDGES HAVE TO DISQUALIFY THEMSELVES, AS THERE CANNOT BE A CONSTITUTIONAL TRIAL and also there would be a violation of the conflict of interest laws, along with the violation of separation of powers and checks and balances, because "OFFICERS" OF THE COURT ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BENCH. These same LAWYER-JUDGES are awarding or approving LAWYER FEES, directly and indirectly, amounting to BILLION OF DOLLARS annually, all in violation of conflict of interest laws. As long as there are lawyers, there will never be any law, Constitution or Justice. There will only be MOB RULE, RULE BY A MOB OF LAWYERS. CASE "LAW" IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL: As CASE "LAW" IS ENACTED BY THE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. When a lawyer-judge instructs, directs, or gives orders to a jury, the lawyer-judge is TAMPERING WITH THE JURY. He also tampers with testimony when he orders the answers to be either "Yes" or "No." The lawyer-judge also tampers, fixes, and rigs the trial when he orders anything stricken from the record, or when he "rules" certain evidence and the truth to be inadmissible. This makes the trial and transcript FIXED and RIGGED, because the jury does not hear the REAL TRUTH and ALL THE FACTS. Juries are made into puppets by the lawyers and lawyer-judges. All lawyers are automatically in the judicial branch of government, as they have the Unconstitutional TITLE OF NOBILITY (Article 1, Section 9 and 10), "Officer of the Court." Citizens have to be elected or hired to be in any branch of government, but non-lawyer Citizens are limited to only two of the three branches of government. Lawyers, as 1st class citizens, can be hired or elected to any of the three branches of government. Lawyers, "Officers of the Court," in the Judicial Branch, are Unconstitutionally in two branches of government AT THE SAME TIME whenever they are hired or elected to the executive or legislative branches. This is a violation of the separation of powers, checks and balances, and the conflict of interest laws. District attorneys and State's attorneys have taken over the Grand Juries FROM the people, where the people are DENIED ACCESS to the Grand Juries when they attempt to present evidence of crimes committed in the courtrooms by the lawyers and lawyer-judges. The U.S. Constitution, being the Supreme Fundamental Law, is not and CANNOT be ambiguous as to be interpreted, or it would be a worthless piece of paper and we would have millions of interpretations (Unconstitutional amendments) instead of the few we have now. That is why all judges and public servants are SWORN TO SUPPORT the U.S. Constitution, NOT interpret it. Under INTERNATIONAL ORDERS: ALL LAWYERS, whether they left law school yesterday or 50 years ago, are EXACTLY THE SAME. All lawyers have to file the same motions and follow the same procedures in using the same Unconstitutional "lawyer system". In probate, the lawyers place themselves in everyone's will and estate. When there are minor children as heirs, the lawyer-judges appoint a lawyer for EACH CHILD and, at times, the lawyer fees EXCEED the total amount of the estate. An OUTRAGEOUS amount of TAX "MONEY" is directly and indirectly STOLEN BY LAWYERS. Money that is budgeted to County/City/Borough Boards, School Boards and other local and federal agencies eventually finds its way into the pockets of lawyers, as ALL of these agencies are "TRICKED" and "FORCED" into ETERNAL EXTORTIONISTIC LITIGATION. In the state of Alaska and Hawaii, the BAR ASSOCIATION has mandated that all judges are to be licensed to practice law (e.g. Alaska Constitution, Article IV, Section 4). This license requirement is not found in any other state of the Union. As all licenses to practice law in the state of Alaska and Hawaii are issued by a judge, what judge is qualified to issue a license to practice law to another judge? As only members of the Bar may be licensed to practice law (e.g. A.S. 08.08.020), Alaska and Hawaii judges are REQUIRED to be members of the BAR and as such, they are prejudiced to do the business of the BAR. If a judge is required to be a member of the BAR, who disqualifies the judge from office if that judge does not pay the dues or violates the rules of the BAR? Every state in the Union (with the exception of Alaska and Hawaii) "prohibits" judges from holding licenses to practice law.
What corruption in America? Nooooooooooooooooo, that would never happen! Why don't more people know about it!?
So, what's the remedy? As far as I can see the origins of the association are as a self-regulating industry body. That's not unusual. The only alternatives would be to have no self-regulation, or for each State to establish a regulatory body to oversee all law firms.
Rather than post this in a forums where half of us arent American and half the Americans don't care, go to the supreme court, make your case, and see what happens.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge 200 million heads are better than one All we can do is get people aware, I've heard stories of a guy who shut down entire law firm with 600 attorneys, I believe he demanded the contract they have to operate in this country (they're unregistered British agents, unregistered as in foreign agent registration act (FARA)) They claimed he's not a party to the contract and he says you put my name on a piece of paper and mailed it, you made me a party to the contract Contract makes the law, it is private and only applies to those who are a party to it Another guy put in his counterclaim a certified copy of the statutes at large, and the attorney general retired early The more people that are aware the more ideas and remedies will come out
You're missing my point though: law representation is a service, and consumers need to know that the service is optimal; hence why Guilds were created, not as a cartel or a barrier to entry, but as a mark of quality where practitioners watch each other and kick out anyone threatening the general esteem by delivering poor quality to the consumer. The bar association exists as a self-regulating industry body. The costs of that self-regulation are passed on to the consumers. Without industry having a body to self-regulate you either remove that assurance of quality, or government has to step in a regulate the law profession itself, paid for out of general taxation. Choose your preferred model.
They can only represent the incompetent, infants, wards, and other disabled people, it's in their charter There is a third option you don't even mention, that we as a free and independent people get up and govern ourselves, cut the purse strings of old queenie We are legally a nation of children and it's not entirely our fault, that's how the schools raise us The single most important subject any young person can be taught about how to deal with the real world and navigate thru it Not one mention, not one second, not even a single hint that it is even a thing, not talked about, it's not on a test, zero, nothing about it in 12 years of school All for what? To ensure your going to need to pay someone every day of your life to read for you, to write for you, every decision, every minute of your life you're going to need legal advice from the British
Sounds like someone's been running around with Ron Paul's people screaming taxation is theft. :roll: You have the right to represent yourself. Likewise you'll simply find most of the lost cases challenging the BAR exams constitutionality were simply attempts by people who failed the exam trying to circumvent the exam.
Lol, see my thread about taxation called "I'm allowed to steal from you" Your second point is correct, also you have the right to assistance of council of your choosing including non bar members and it's not allowed, representing yourself also earns you increased penalty if you lose I've not read any case vs the bar, however it is protected by the Constitution as "free association", right to assemble, freedom of religion We all have the right to associate with whoever we feel like it's part off the right to assemble What makes it ominous is that they're foreign agents acting for a foreign power (temple bar, you can search wiki for temple bar and learn all about the history of their religion) They're not registered with foreign agent registration act (FARA) and they have zero authority from congress to not register Because they've taken an oath to a foreign power they've forfiet citizenship, and accepted title of nobility The original 13th amendment forbid these people from holding any office or position of trust Ty Abe Lincoln
This is True. However, the U.S. Supreme Court has the responsibility to interpret the Constitution and Make laws or amendments where it is seen fit. For example, In the Gideon v Wainright Case (1963), Gideon was to poor to afford a lawyer, and with The current Laws at the time, he recieved no assistance or lawyer thereof. Thus, Gideon's defense was inadequate and he was convicted. The U.S. Supreme Court, upon reviewal, unanimously reversed this conviction effectively stating that he was inadequately defended because he could not afford a lawyer. This ruling lead to (IDEK what they are called exactly) Laws/Statues being passed, such that Now if you cannot afford a lawyer, a public defender will be provided for you. (I am not talking about Texas, which just goes down the list of Licensed Lawyers and Randomly assigns a Laywer to a defendant, regardless of whether the Lawyer is a Real estate Lawyer/Attorney, EMT lawyer, Union Lawyer or Criminal Court Lawyer) Its also in The Miranda Warning,"You have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford one, one will be provided to you", Which does not need to be Given at the time of arrest. It is given by a Judge when you are processed in court.