Hey all, I've been getting word about people not entirely sure about how prestige works, so I'll be covering the prestige changes in a general sense through tables showing the various prestige totals we have seen thus far and how they achieved them, as well as showing the most recent week's war results, previous and new prestige for the before and after war. I was torn between setting this in the strategy and the war sections, but as clans will use this as a means to decide whether or not they want to start taking part, if they want to not participate certain weeks etc, I'm placing it in the Strategy section. This topic's intent of discussion is to promote discussion and/or tracking on prestige mechanics, general system war discussion, and to a smaller extent discuss each week of Summer Wars 2012 as they occur. To start, here's Week 3's results as they have come in so far. Some wars may still be going on in this section depending on the time viewed: Last Rights 1056(1081) vs The Crew 1010(993) DONE – Winner: Last Rights Middle Kingdom 1060(1085) vs Urban Killers 1014(997) DONE – Winner: Middle Kingdom -ALPHA WOLVES- 1056(1037) vs MiNG n BAR 1060(1089) DONE – Winner: MiNG n BAR K.o.S 1030(1009) vs Reunion 1010(1041) DONE – Winner: Reunion Inglorious 1055(1085) vs The Hollow 1060(1040) DONE - Winner: Inglorious -MnB- MaHarLika 1010(991) vs ZAFT Destiny 1032(1059) DONE – Winner: ZAFT Destiny IAC 1008(1042) vs GARUDA Army 1060(1038) DONE – Winner: IAC Se7en S1ns 1055(1082) vs 4 Seasons 1030(1011) DONE - Winner: Se7en S1ns Lords Of the Shadow 1011(994) vs HGL 1060(1085) DONE – Winner: HGL Epic War Clan 1060(1086) vs LNR Warriors 1030(1012) DONE – Winner: Epic War Clan RESILIENCE 980(962) vs Battlegrounds 1010(1036) DONE – Winner: Battlegrounds True Spartans 1010(1044) vs Dragon Forces 1056(1034) DONE – Winner: True Spartans Mercenary Inc 1060(1090) vs FAITH Legacy 1060(1040) DONE – Winner: Mercenary Inc Now, to explain my table's format so they're not complete gibberish. Prestige totals are broken up into Win/Loss groups, starting with a bold number showing the resulting prestige, an IF START number showing what the pre-war prestige was at, and an AND OPP number to show what the opposing side's prestige was, as well as whether or not you had won that particular war(win/lose). W:0 L:0 START 1000 "BATTLE" 24 HR War/12HR FF War W:1 L:0 1032 IF START 1000 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1030 IF START 1000 AND OPP 1000(Win) W:0 L:1 982 IF START 1000 AND OPP 1030(Lose) 980 IF START 1000 AND OPP 1000(Lose) 979 IF START 1000 AND OPP 980(Lose) W:2 L:0 1060 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1059 IF START 1032 AND OPP 1010(Win) 1056 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1000(Win) 1055 IF START 1030 AND OPP 980(Win) W:1 L:1 1014 IF START 980 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1012 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1060(Lose) 1011 IF START 980 AND OPP 1000(Win) 1011 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1055(Lose) 1010 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1030(Lose) 1009 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1010(Lose) 1008 IF START 1030 AND OPP 1000(980)(Lose) W:0 L:2 963 IF START 980 AND OPP 1030(Lose) 962 IF START 980 AND OPP 1010(Lose) 960 IF START 980 AND OPP 980(Lose) W:3 L:0 1090 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1060(Win) 1089 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1056 (Win) 1086 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1085 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1014(1011)(Win) 1085 IF START 1055 AND OPP 1060(Win) 1082 IF START 1055 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1081 IF START 1056 AND OPP 1010(Win) W:2 L:1 1044 IF START 1010 AND OPP 1056(Win) 1042 IF START 1008 AND OPP 1060(Win) 1041 IF START 1010 AND OPP 1030(Win) 1040 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1060(1055)(Lose) 1038 IF START 1060 AND OPP 1008(Lose) 1037 IF START 1056 AND OPP 1060(Lose) 1036 IF START 1010 AND OPP 980(Win) 1034 IF START 1056 AND OPP 1010(Lose) W:1 L:2 997 IF START 1014 AND OPP 1060(Lose) 994 IF START 1011 AND OPP 1060(Lose) 993 IF START 1010 AND OPP 1056(Lose) 991 IF START 1010 AND OPP 1032(Lose) W:0 L:3 No Zero Win, Three Loss Clans to date. (Random Notes to be added here covering prestige mechanics discussion material as it comes up) Did you know? Your clan and the opposing clan's prestige affect the mithril payout of the war, although this has never been tested to see the exact extent. [Fun Fact]For Max Prestige Up to 100 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 1 (1030) Up to 50 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 2 (1060) Up to 25 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 3 (1090) Up to 12 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 4 (1120) Up to 6 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 5 (1150) Up to 3 clans can be undefeated vs same opponent week 6 (1180) Up to 1 clan can be undefeated vs same opponent week 7 (1210) That's about it, I hope this was helpful, at the very least assisting in tracking Summer Wars 2012 as it goes on and at most giving a tiny bit deeper look at the mechanics of Kingdoms at War. I will be updating the information as the Summer Wars progress as well as improving the quality of this topic's structure itself as feedback comes in.
Updated to show all results from Week 3. As of this moment only 8 clans have Won 3 and Lost 0, so it is still anybody's game unless all 8 clans participate and go undefeated in the remaining weeks. By order of prestige, the current top 8 at the end of Week 3: 1st Mercenary Inc 1090 Prestige 2nd MiNG N BAR 1089 Prestige 3rd Epic War Clan 1086 Prestige Tied For 4th Middle Kingdom 1085 Prestige Tied For 4th HGL 1085 Prestige Tied For 4th Inglorious 1085 Prestige 7th Se7en S1ns 1082 Prestige 8th Last Rights 1081 Prestige
Good post, thank you. Does this also mean that from a LB of 200 clans only 26 clans took part this weekend? Sad to see so few taking part!
Looking at the fact these clans fought 3 and won 3, and prestige varying the way it does (9 points) . Is it possible to fight in all wars, win all wars and still not qualify... Due to how your were matched up for a war (against a clan with less prestige) .and a clan that loses one qualify above them? Is that entirely fair considering it's out of their control?
That's just a question of course. But something I'm unclear on. Because If you give your all and win every war , but not make the playoffs losing out because of how you were matched, that would suck bigtime. You would have to pray you were matched against a clan with similar or more prestige. Totally out of your control... :/ . Please clarify.
The thought also occurs that more than 8 clans could fight and win all wars, but again not make the playoffs due to whom they had been matched against. Not this time, granted, but possible nonetheless. It's a funny old game
You answer your own questions in this post here. It is possible for 100 clans to beat the crap out of 100 other top 200 clans and rotate a winner vs a loser every time if the matchmaker only matched due to stats and we would end with everyone tied for first. Luckily, the matchmaker matches both due to stats and then prestige, so that there is always a clear winner. Now, would it be terrible if more than 8 clans win all 7 weeks and the others don't get into the finals? Yes. Will the devs likely cross that bridge when they get to it? Probably, especially if there is that much interest in the war system.