Question On Plunder.

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by EternalFire-_-Princess-_-Devil, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Hello, it's that Barcode guy.

    I have a question on builds that are making 80-190mil first hit. I have my build on my main that I won't release but I can tell you it has 14 SOS, 18 Guilds, 2 lvl2 colony, and lvl 3 castle. Explain to me how an attack build with 5mcs is making above 80+ mil per hit when Im making 62mil per hit? This account already makes more than the hansel I have. This was before gh plunder nerf.
    -Dat Barcode Tho
     
  2. Hi Barcode guy!

    Well, two things: you "only" have 35 lands and you are a spy build. Lets elaborate on both points.

    Former guild hansels often had 50 lands. So nowadays, you'll see quite a few of these having converted their lowlands to something else, either SoS or CoEs. This will give them around 5m cs. The difference in plunder between 35 and 50 lands is quite noticeable, even if those are taken by 15 guilds.

    You are doing 62m per hit as a spy build (on HTE, I assume). Which honestly isn't all that bad as it only is ally bonus plunder. Now take a former hlbc gh that converted his lowland to 24 CoEs lvl3 and has 25 guilds lvl4 on highlands. The ally bonus plunder will roughly be equivalent. However, the first hit for that hybrid build should add some normal plunder and I guess the fh will be around 90-95m.

    Your first assassination however will be higher than the hybrid's one, you are comparing two different builds. Now take such a 5m cs hybrid and give him a lvl5 Estoc Edge, he'll be hitting not far from 150m first hit.

    The 190m first hit you are talking about would be a regular hlbc hitter (maybe with a few T6) having some Estoc Edge spell, it seems too high for a regular hit. This doesn't seem possible with a 5m cs build.
     
  3. Thanks for the high quality post that I could understand.

    I didn't mean 5mcs, I meant 5+mcs. Also, some of these guys making 80m are not using a EE spell.

    - Dat Barcode Tho
     
  4. Maybe because you have guilds? Guilds suck now.
     
  5. And what are you hitting?
     
  6. /lock

    Do not bump, inb4, or some annoying ****.

    Just read it and leave or have something useful and high quality that you can back up to say.
    This is not only spam, it is extremely annoying and rubbish.

    - Dat Barcode Tho
     
  7. I'm making 91m first hit. Scout me -.-
     
  8. @MM,

    HTE first off.
    Second I said BEFORE guild nerf.
    If you are going to add anything to this, please do.
    Or don't, whatever.

    - Dat Barcode Tho
     
  9. Are the SoS level 3? And yes, the amount of lands you have makes a significant difference.
     
  10. @Phartacus,

    Yes, SOS LVL3.
    Second, my main is affraid to scout you.
    If you can just list your builds and levels and number of lands, that would be amazing.
    Thirdly, you are using EE lvl3.

    - Dat Barcode Tho
     
  11. I had 35 lands, but 27 SoS, 7 atk buildings, and I make 75m. When I was 27 Guilds, i made 70m.

    When you say 5m+ cs, you are talking about them being an attack build right? Because attack builds always make A LOT more first hit. But the more they hit, the less they make, as their troops go down.

    So an attack build skimming is always gonna make a lot.
     
  12. Oh noes, I made a spelling mistake!
    Inb4 Grammar Police!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    An example of what not to do on a thread.
    Just post something useful or get off forum.

    Thanks all for the help.
     
  13. Because they make all their money from their troops, and have little Allies Plunder/Bonus. So as they hit more, their plunder drops fast.
     
  14. WTF are you talking about? :shock:
     
  15. I think he's going crazy O_O
     
  16. I think so too..
     
  17. Just explaining the rules of the forum because I posted /lock on this thread.

    Thank you the both of you.
    -Dat Barcode Tho
     
  18. Anyways.. As requested. I have:
    -22 SoS level 3
    -3 CoE level 3
    -2 Volary level 2
    -5 Volary level 3
    -11-13 Guilds Level 4
    - Castle Level 3

    And that's 73m no EE I believe.
     
  19. Random :roll:
     
  20. Ok, I misread it a bit as I posted from a point of view of a 5m cs first (showing you though that 90m fh is feasible at that size without EE spell).

    Well, larger hitters will make a lot more plunder than that. The number of lands and buildings will be making the difference. The maximum I recorded on this hitter was 165m fh, but I am sure that more is possible. My plunder in fact goes down at every upgrade I am doing. I now am around 152m fh (compared to 112m fh on a regular Smoke Signals).