Full Hansel Plunder is BAD

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by -RaDiAnZ-, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. Just a heads up to aspiring large hansels.

    I am personally very disappointed with the plunder I make.

    Am HFT2 bc. Hitting Glacial Squall, I take ONLY a peanut 51.8m plunder from allies. How great is that?!!!?!?

    I spent so much to upgrade but am extremely disappointed with the plunder. Not to mention stats.

    Guys and spies. Pls go spend on allies, pots, bb, etc. better than upgrading at the moment.

    Radz
     
  2. Thank you for the info.
     
  3. Devs reading. I do hope that you adjust the plunder for hansels. It's quite bad. Hope more
    Spies bump this thread.

    Radz
     
  4. What gold do you get from a assassination on TFC? Ally bonus may only be 51m, but your plunder from spy actions may make up for that.
     
  5. A peanut? I envy that much cash
     
  6. Swiftly
    I did not take that into consideration. Will check. But it still is crap. Those 2x3x gold. My warriors hit 80-100b per hit from what I know.
    Radz
     
  7. bump, true. payout really sucks. and people spending real money will b/r very disappointed.
     
  8. Hansels doesnt make more by plunder but they get a much higher bonus after the eb haunting gave a high bonus higher then tfc now tfc gs and ww are out hansel isnt the best paying build anymore i was a hansel but converted ll to coe now im a hybride that pays nice nice plunder a a good bonus devs try to lower the number of hansels thats why they made the new ebs better for attack builds
     
  9. I should.do the same make lowland coe and you got a nice build with rest spy and to make ll coe will.just cost 1 maybe 2 weeks
     
  10. Radianz bro - i SAw other Hansel in your Clan with Same Hits make alot more than you
     
  11. The new ebs are actually more hansel friendly than attack friendly
     
  12. @ Radianz - consider that that 51.8 mil is constant with each attack. Also, TFC and GS are great at figuring out how much more your spies do for you than everyone else because they have a steal bar.

    If you know the value of your First Steal (FS) then an unload on steals is about 14.9 x FS and an unload on assassinates is about 14.63 x FS.

    If you can skim assassinates for an hour then you make about 27.7 x FS with your spies each hour.

    An unload in troops (including bonus) is 42.5 x FA (first attack) assuming you get 26 hits in. It's 44.2 x FA for 27 hits.

    So total unload is
    T = 42.5FA 14.6FS

    This equation is good for Hansels only.

    For attack builds you have to separate out Plunder and Allies Bonus

    T = 22.1P 42.5AB 14.6FS

    That gets you in the ballpark. P and FS are values from their first attack or first steal. And these equations apply only to TFC, GS, and those EBs that have a 7/11 bonus factor.
     
  13. Hows that balto if theres attack only bars!!? That regen at.that!!!
     
  14. Grrrr. Supposed to be plus signs in between each term.
     
  15. Just one more: if you do 5 minute skims for one hour, total gold made is

    T = 37.8P ➕ 39.3AB ➕ 27.7FS
     
  16. Plunder is irrelevant. Look at gold per actions. Hansels get huge eb end bonuses.
     
  17. Those equations factor in the end bonus and can be used to directly compare any build as long as you know what they make on their first hit and first steal (P, AB, FS). P is insignificant for hansels but not so for attack builds.
     
  18. Known fact hansels get better end bonuses, so in reality it's about even between the two.
     
  19. Radianz
    u r my all time favourite build :) altho i will put few sdts nd adts for wars when i ll be t5 complete. I also think that hansels r better build cuz they can easily pin atack builds and steal from them (especially after striping), but devs made kaw to better suite atack builds (more buildings, even ee used to add bonus for plunder per atack, what was bad for hansels). About end bonus, i think its very good, maby even better then plunder per atack which atack builds make. Anyway i will stay hansel till end of my kaw life :)