Estoc Trials - Week 8 - War #4 - General Update

Discussion in 'Past Events' started by admin, May 23, 2013.

  1. News
    * There have been reports, both on the forums and sent via feedback, that certain clans are exploiting the system to their benefit. If you find evidence of this, please add it to these threads that we are creating for each war. Next week, we will go through the data and take any appropriate actions necessary. We are reading the responses, and the other threads that are posted, and will investigate the clans that were mentioned.


    War #4

    Signups: 52
    No Match: 6

    UnBeKnowN - Odd man out

    The OutlawZ - Odd man out here too. Your BFA was on the low side. Bumping that up could help you find more potential matches next time.

    A V A L O N - Your member size was way too high for your strength and BFA.

    Wolves Reborn - Your build stats were too low to match you with a clan of similar BFA and size.

    WAR ZONE - Your BFA was the lowest in the sign-ups.

    EXMOOR--PIRATES - Your BFA was too low to match you with clans of similar strength and size.


    Clan Size breakdown

    War #4
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    X-Axis - Clan sizes
    Y-Axis - # of signups

    As per usual, we will be monitoring clan BFA numbers and we will address any suspicious activity throughout the coming war. Please keep BFA changes post-sign up to a reasonable minimum! Anything beyond that and you will be warned and risk losing rewards and/or match-ups!
     
  2. Please make it so if someone casts WoC after 33 members it says "You cannot do this as your clan is at the maximum number of participants already" or something!!
     
  3. COME ON!!! Thats twice in a row!
     
  4. Adding to what the person above me said (sorry didnt take the time to read your name, please forgive me) make it to where if the clan has signed up for the war, that if somebody tries casting that they get an error message.
     
  5. Why devs whyyyyyyyyyy :shock:
     
  6. after signup ends try informing a clan in notification about increasing there bfa, etc and allow them to make changes on who will join war but only that clan maybe this will make lesser no match up
     
  7. How many times do you need to hit the paladin eb to get mith? Twice now I've only had 1 or 2 hits and tried to wait until I was full regen, but the eb was finished before I could hit again. Both of those times I did not get a mith drop..
     
  8. Just to start I'm asking a question not crying and complaining...
    Murder Raw vs Vhawks
    Murder raw clan strength: 28
    Vhawks clan strength: 123
    Murder war top 30 roster in war: 13
    Vhawks top 30 roster in war: 11
    And their bottoms being bigger also, I'm just curious of the logic that the system used to match us? I know there's been so many complaints on these threads and I'm not trying to add but if you could but inform me when you have time kaw admin thank you
     
  9. You can't look at clan strength in lbs, they only change once a day. And that just means you have a bigger mid size group, it's definitely do able bud.
     
  10. Our Mids being bigger, same thing I thought
    But nope they are bigger there too lol oh well fight too the end :)
     
  11. Every no match= less of a chance for me to get lvl 40 :( i need 3 more wins, keep this in yur mind
     
  12. Joe you left out the fact the match up was 28 vs 25 V-Hawks favour, think its kinda important to include this point...

    Looked like a great war!
     
  13. Ok, so I have one thought that I would like to share, and kaw admin has said repeatedly that they are looking at feedback in regards to changes that they will be making to season 2. I do hope that they see this post and give it some thought as they figure out what they will be doing with the second season.

    I did not think about this until coming up on this last week of the wars and with 4 levels per win and working on the push to 50 rancor. I imagine several clans are now looking at this and trying to figure out what to do, so if this has already been brought up then I am sorry for being redundant.

    With the max rancor level being 50, and the top award being given out to those who hit 50, players and clans are now stuck with a tough decision. In an effort to get as many clanmates as possible to level 50, those that already have the max level are stuck with the choice of whether or not to put their 50 on the line and risk losing a point if they lose, and as a result risk the sixth piece of equip, or let their clanmates fend for themselves as they try to pull together a roster or even merc to another clan if necessary.

    This is a crappy choice to have to make and I have already seen mates put their already maxed rancor on the line for their friends and then lose the war and are now stuck trying to scramble back to 50 as the number of people available to war is dwindling due to either players not being able to make certain wars or not wanting to risk losing their own maxed level.

    And who can blame them? I don't. But why must players be put in this situation to begin with? Was this done on purpose? And if it was, could someone explain to me why? All the other levels that offer equip have ranges.. 1 equip for levels 1-9, 2 for 10-19, and so on. But for max 6 pieces it is just 50.. Why not give the top level a range also? To help your friends if you are already maxed, you must win or risk not making it back to max.. Not every member of a clan can participate in each war, nor is sign up limit close to being able to include a full clan, so of course the levels clan members have are going to vary. Why put people that make it to max in this situation, when of course people are going to want to help their friends.

    I see it as an unnecessary complication but like I said, maybe there is a valid reason for doing this that I'm just not seeing. Anyway, sorry for the novel, just kinda pisses me off seeing friends put in this tough spot.

    TL;DR - make the max rancor level a range so people that hit max before the rest of their mates are able to continue to war to help the rest of their clan without having to risk losing their own hard earned reward.
     
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    it's to give your friends a chance to war too ! dont be greedy of miths! go outside and have a real life too
     
  15. If you increased the rancor stack to 51 or 52 it would give people who are at max the option to still fight in a war without risking the loss of your 6th equip reward
     
  16. @ LA Mwmwmwm

    He is saying the exact opposite of what you are assuming. It is players in the clan that are at 50 in the last week being forced to either put it on the line and risk losing 50 or let their clan mates close to 50 not make it.

    The mith payout has nothing to do with it. Having so many players at 50 most won't war so all the players close to 50 have to scramble to get enough people to even qualify. And then if qualified are these the right players to win or just place fillers.

    Dark Blade is right. It is a bad situation. I think a possible solution is that if you are at 50 you could opt to give up the mith payment if you win in order to keep your 50 points win or lose. I would gladly give up my mith payment for my team mates. And for the record I have done 3 wars while at 50 just to help my team mates so I understand this as well as anyone can.
     
  17. you should give other clans chance to win to you know? you guys from strong clan should've got at least level 30 right? what about other clans? even maintaining rancor is hard enough to them :)
     
  18. Lol. Really??? Give other clans a chance? That's your answer?? You are out of your mind. The whole point of the post was that I would not be at 50 without my clan. Now if I don't war (and others at 50) the rest of my clan will not get there. After all my clan did for me it's the least I could do for them but losing the 50 is a hard decision.

    As far as your clan and others why in the world would I ever give up on my family for strangers???

    You are insane.
     
  19. Db and gabe are dead on.

    EE is about seeing who the best clan is, so the little man trying to argue with his, let other clans have a chance theme, is as stupid ad I've heard.

    It's a tough call on what to do(for some). Risk your level 50 to help your clan, or be selfish and make sure you get all equipment items. There really isn't a correct choice.

    I thought EE was meant to tighten clan unity and really show who the better clan was(in terms of EE war) but it seems to be the opposite. Most clans are experiencing lots of push back from their members and lots of clans are turmoil because of the demands you have to meet in order to be a good EE clan.


    This is what happens when an update is pushed out before its. Ready. I remember being the only person in forums speaking out against this system when kaw admin first announced it. Now you can't even open active topics without multiple EE war complaint threads. Funny how that worked out.
     
  20. Meanwhile, most wars I land in see us matched against clans that will pretty easily stomp the clan I'm in. My suspicion is because BFE isn't considered. You guys are moaning about getting/keeping level 50, I can't even get level 10 because we keep getting matched against monster clans.

    Not considering BFE leads to a rich getting richer/poor getting poorer situation. It would be interesting to see how making this adjustment would change the war matchups.

    Not crying for wins every time, but having something slightly better than a snowball's chance in hell would be nice.