Estoc Trials - Week 7 - War #7 - General Update

Discussion in 'Past Events' started by admin, May 17, 2013.

  1. News
    * There have been reports, both on the forums and sent via feedback, that certain clans are exploiting the system to their benefit. If you find evidence of this, please add it to these threads that we are creating for each war. Next week, we will go through the data and take any appropriate actions necessary. We are reading the responses, and the other threads that are posted, and will investigate the clans that were mentioned.

    * We are finding that very few clans sign up over 33 members, for all wars. To make matches more likely, and stop clans from signing up with numbers that will obviously get no match, we are going to be making adjustments to the max clan size for next week.


    War #7

    Signups: 36
    No Match: 4

    RCA odd man out.
    Silver high sign up size limited your number of matches.
    V-Hawks your sign up size also limited the number of possible matches.
    W32.SQLExpVVorm odd man out due to lack of sign ups in your range.


    Clan Size breakdown

    War #7
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    X-Axis - Clan sizes
    Y-Axis - # of signups

    As per usual, we will be monitoring clan BFA numbers and we will address any suspicious activity throughout the coming war. Please keep BFA changes post-sign up to a reasonable minimum! Anything beyond that and you will be warned and risk losing rewards and/or match-ups!
     
  2. Odd man out again ahaha :)

    Thank you devs :D

    -Spy
     
  3. well I guess it's better than matching regulators ... Really stinks to mis a chance at 4 rancor points though
     
  4. whats being done about the people changing their names to barcodes and to duplicate clan members names almost exactlyexcept for like 1 underscore? this is doneto make tracking more difficult. what aretheyhiding from anyway?
     
  5. Didn't devs say name change is allowed? They said it could be overcome with effort and skill so they allow it.

    They did say using too many W's and M's to be too long is an exploit and not allowed.
     
  6. They won't ban the name changes, people pay $$$$ for that. The only thing better than having all these people using 2 xstals per war is having people use $2+ worth of name changes as well.
     
  7. Devs u forget SOTRA ... we got no match also and got no reason
     
  8. SOTRA look at war #6 there were two war results posted at the same time.
     
  9. Devs problem that keeps re-occurring how can a clan possibly be stronger in rank with 3 extras surely this situation is a loss before it starts, your advantage should be one or the other not both
     
  10. Rizzle, we were smaller and out numbered by 3 and won by 11b. I thought it was impossible to win down and smaller, but with a strategy and a team that sticks to it, you can win.

    Much respect 
     
  11. A lot of the take on BFE not factored in from what I've seen is same clans repeatably matched against each other with similar tactics at start or not and one progressively gaining a bigger advantage over the other through the wins and resulting BFE.
    Now some would call it better tactics and some could be right. Clan a may be perfect.
    But then clan b will never win in constant match ups no matter the change of tactics if clan a continually get stronger at clan b's expense.
    Result clan a gets a relatively free mith ride.
    Clan b is constantly in no mans land
    I can understand why people want the equipment advantage. Heck we all do.

    I can see why people say BFE should be included. It basically puts the best against the best with the highest mith earners warring similar.
    Prestige system others have proposed.
    Short of creating leagues it makes sense. Are there enough warring clans for a league system?
    Probably not.
    So where does that leave us?
    Big changes and no idea?
    We always used to get complaints of miss matches Personally my take on it is unless we want non stop wars between 2-4 clans and if 1-2 miss a war then a no match results which is becoming the norm then we only have one scenario left a near total random system.
    Screw matches if its uneven or not what the hey let the chips fall where they may. At least if its random you have a good shot that half your wars are possible wins ( yes more for top clans) and the non random part is system does not match the same two clans say twice in a week.
    Most leagues every team plays every other team twice would be good but with some clans changing rosters impossible without locking clans together which in some cases would do more harm than good.

    No matches suck more than an uneven war and would instantly be wiped out.
    Losers have the red paladin eb so there is always a payout.
    Clans will never be even so why not just chuck the rule book out.

    The one adjustment I would add as a balance purely for ee wars is that all builds pay a minimum of 1 mil per land unlocked ( most builds pay more or about there anyway ) just to level out all builds making everyone more competitive in the system.

    Btw for those saying eb equipment. The mith equipment is far easier to get than aqua without paying out real money though as drops of aqua are immensely rare. And crystal for war work out far cheaper in comparison. Unless devs want to re- look at aqua drops again.

    So lets just go random , yes some matches will suck others will be average others great. But every one will match up and with the amount of blow out wars this season I doubt it will make any real difference to one sided wars.

    And before anyone states that yes I much prefer really close wars that have you in suspense right up to the final seconds where your asking shot did we win update damn it tell us if we won ( bests type of wars IMO ) but that's happened 2 x most others have been land slides one way or the other. So why not just mix things up totally get rid of all the bs and get some fun back in kaw.
    For one sick of seeing the same arguments between the same players on every one of these threads non stop so let's just go a different way and have a laugh with it for season two. Damage has been done to season one. So add that to enter spells in my season two forum we could have totally wild matchups and no exploits need as you will always bounce levels of opponents making every war different and fun and better odds of winning on at least a 50/50 basis esp with no repeat matches in same week.
    Sorry to spam idea but wanted devs to see.
    Lets get this progressive and fun again without the bickering please clans

    Btw devs final weeks se players are totally been excluded with no matches. How do they earn rancour at all in this system. Totally crazy they are severely being hampered in their efforts despite willing ness to fight how can you help these players ? Doesn't affect me obviously but they need something done
     
  12. @kaw_admin

    a.) remove all the size limits. dont match by stats/BFA/BFE and open up wars for 1-100 and let matches be random by prestige.
    • you can match 1 or 2 prestiges higher or lower, but when battling a higher prestige clan, give losing clans 14 mith minimum when they lose on TVP so people aren't afraid to fight a stronger clan. when winning against a higher prestige clan, make the rewards higher than a normal so that clans are more up for the challenge than shying away from them.
    b.) you're still in testing and 8 weeks of unfair matches eliminates the kawMunity for a fair chance at rancor equipment. Season 2 Should be Rancor 50 (7-12) and Rancor 100 (1-6). give peoole a chance to get all the equipment.
    c.) if you decide to continue to match by strength and size, BFE must be factored in.
    d.) members need a way to cancel wave of conflict so members don't have to leave and lose EE levels when emergencies come up.
    e.) give owners and admins the ability to kick inactives, trying to test potential recruits who become inactive gives an opposing team a tremendous amount of plunder! The ability to remove these players from active roster gives clans a far greater chance at winning.
     
  13. What they said 