Bluejays guide to a quick spy conversion

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by Mr_Bluejay, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. Bluejays guide to quick spy conversion!

    Disclaimerthis guide is made for those whom have access to an open steal/state farm.

    Welcome one and all to "Bluejays guide to quick spy conversion!" this guide has been written by myself with some help from |__theKnight__| and the wonderful Dev-Artemis. Please contact me if any details prove to be wrong (just post my wall) and if you like the guide or have any criticism just post on the thread itself.

    This guide is born in the hope of explaining to brand new players (or maybe clan owners or dedicated members whom wish to become an osf for the sake of their clan, the limits of a spy build but also the strengths. So not only will I explain how to convert I will also show a little to do with spy warfare but not a huge amount.

    please note no conversion is ever quick! But I hope to show you in my view the best and easiest way to convert to pure spy and what to do once converted. Questions on how can I become an osf? are often posted on my wall when I ask if anyone needs some answers. So this will also be a place to send these people to read in detail, as I do not always have time to explain in full.

    Starting off

    As we all know when we reset, or join the game, we have a castle and two other lands. One of these lands will hold a guild DO NOT SELL this whatever you are told! This guild will be your saviour at a later date (I will explain more in a second.) The other land has space for a workshop, stable or barracks choose anyone of these you will soon tear it down in place for a tier 2 building (forge, war cathedral and beastiliry) 

    Now that you have looked around the game and read thus far, it's time to POLITELY ask on world chat for a volley/hire and say that you will build "place tier 2 building name here", which you will (for those whom are resets reading this ask some friends.) DO NOT ASK MAJESTY!! he will block you and you may need him at some point (this is unrelated to the guide.) When the volley stops (volley is multiple hires to increase your price and give you money) talk to your owner and say you need a couple of hours before upgrading. Your volley should have given you around 60-70 million now use this to volley with other players (they must keep for you to make money) I suggest asking rich friends to do it as they will keep the ally. Do this up to the point where you have 300mil (million) or around that amount. you must keep yourself defender to weak do this by doing quests until you have 0 troops. Why do we do this? At your stage with around 300mil out you will be attacked hundreds of times.

    starting to build

    Now that we have 300mil and you are keeping yourself DTW (defender to weak) it's time to start building!!!!!
    Yay!!! I hear you cheer but it's not all fun and games. You must get this stage right otherwise all we will have worked for is in vain.

    What are we going to build? First we must take into account the pro's and con's of each build:

    Forge build:
    •Good Attack
    •leaves you vulnerable to attacks (especially at this stage when you have no pots)

    Beastilary:
    •2 extra attacks per regen 
    •very good with max ally plunder bonus=extra gold per hit
    •slower regeneration cycle (but not enough to make to much of a difference)

    War cathedrals:
    •best defence of any tier 2 building
    •extra plunder (not as much as beast with max ally plunder)
    •not as many troops as beast
    •low attack (ok if you have an osf)

    Now it's your choice on which build to go but I myself recommend the Beastilary, as that is what I have used in the past.

    Now we get onto the building!

    I can see you've been itching to get something on your lands. So now it's time to build your Beastilarys (although it's the same basic idea for the other build too.

    1. Sell your tier 1 building and replace it with a beast (short for Beastilary) which you should the upgrade to level 3 then repeat up until land 100,000,000

    2.you should have around 60-70mil left. Now stop or a while and volley, hit an osf as much as you can to add to the amount, remembering to keep yourself DTW this time on the osf and quests. Also upgrade your guild to level 3.

    3.When you have around 300 mil buy an ally repeat step 2 until you have 4bil in allies (you may think it's alot now but you won't later) this should keep you at max ally plunder for a while at least.

    Click this link it shows you how to test if your plunder is maxed:

    j3lackj3ird's guide to kaw read to section on ally plunder

    4.Now it's the time we have been dreading we need to stock up on defence pots and spy defence pots we will be continually adding to this store but we can't always be on to keep ourselves DTW so we need to keep our money safe. You need around 200mil of each of the top 3 pots.

    5.When we have the potions we can get the new lands and build more Beastilaries on them.

    6.You should know by now how to make money (don't keep yourself DTW all the time because you have the pots)
    Buy the lands up to the 900,000,000. Remember to add another guild at level 3 at some point along with the beastilaries.

    Now hold on it's time for a build change

    7.Now we are at land 900,000,000 we can convert to a hansel build, all guilds except one war cathedral and one Beastilary. DO THIS GRADUALLY !! Slowly converting every Beastilary except one to lvl 3 guilds leaving space for your war cathedral.

    Hansel build gives you extra plunder due to the extra guilds.

    I insist staying out of wars while you are hansel build and only if ever join when you are a pure spy.

    8.Now we get back to the ally buying and continue up until you have around 15bil in allies you can survive on less but I recommend this amount.

    9.As our next land is the same price as upgrading your guilds to lvl 4 do the upgrading and when all your guilds are level 4 buy the 900,000,000 mil land and upgrade your guild to lvl 4 continue this to land complete.

    Land complete! Party time!

    Your finally land complete with your war cathedral and Beastilary still in place. But now it's time to say goodbye but before you do this save up enough gold to upgrade to 2 lvl4 guilds straight away. And guess what? 

    your land complete, build complete

    Congratulations you have got thus far and are now an lcbc (land complete build complete) pure spy ready to head out into the world there are two ways in which you can go :

    •The osf
    •And the pure spy warrior

    the osf route

    Now as an osf you will supply gold to your clan or friends through them attacking you to take the gold which you put out. 

    YOU MUST DROP YOUR ALLIES OR HAVE THEM HIRED AWAY. AND YOU MUST SELL ALL YOUR NON-SPY DEFENCE POTS.

    There are 2 ways to put out gold each go to suit a different situation:

    Spying for gold:

    This is for players whose clans are not full of members or whom support a few friends. 

    You will make your gold by Spying for it as the name implies. A good place to spy is an OAF (open attack farm) a player whom has 0 spy def potions and puts out money for you (if you want some names wall me I will not post on here as some like to remain unknown) when you have this done, let the farming begin 

    potion selling[/150]

    This is a technique which you have to prepare for (buy attack potions in vast quantities) but that is made to deal with vast amounts of people, I used this very technique when I was a world chat osf.

    When you want to open just sell a couple of pots to open yourself.

    pure spy warrior

    With a pure spy you need your allies and hundreds of all the def potions so that if an ally is hired away during war the gold cannot be taken from you. With no money out a pure spy stays DTW until the point of money being put out. 

    Pure spy warrior is all about war opportunities and there is always a clan open to a pure spy mercenary. 

    One of the great advantages of a pure spy in war is that they can burn almost any spy defence potion opening the player to steals from all of your clan mates and adding to your plunder.

    thank you for reading

    Thanks for reading this guide. And thank you to all my clan mates who put up with my absence while it was being written. This guide is written to help anyone and everyone to understand a pure spy build. It's taken a while but it's finally finished. If the new building contain another spy building I will make the necessary changes.

    Thank you bonkers b and b you are an amazing clan.

    Mr_Bluejay  
     
  2. Damn I ruined some of the bb code :(
     
  3. Lol nice guide too bad I'm almost at BC otherwise would have used this one
     
  4. Thanks I'd edit it now but I'm not on my comp I'm really sorry about the bb code mess up :(
     
  5. isnt 5bil enough in allies to max your plunder?
     
  6.  Thumbs up by l__Knight__l 
    not l__theKnight__l
    lol 
     
  7. I said that you could stay with 5 bil but my personal preference is 15bil
     
  8. Once I get a chance I'll look through everything and give you my feedback.
     
  9. Thanks kool I need to edit a few bits (I got the bit about the cath and beasts wrong) but I can't get on comp yet
     
  10. There really does NOT need to be a guide on this:
    1. Go hansel build
    2. Save 25b
    3. Spend 1b to convert
    4. Bank the rest for emergenices

    Or

    1. Save 1b for every guild you need, and 25b more for emergencies
    2. Switch

    ...
     
  11. I was just trying to help :(
     
  12. Here fixed:
    1. Preferably youre a hansel build
    2. Save 1b for every guild you need (1 for hansel), and another 25b more for emergencies
    3. If you'll be selling pots or dropping allies for the gold, youll need to take the number in step two and divide by .7 (this is how much you save)
    4. Convert and bank the rest in the cheapest atk potion

    There, everything you need to know in 4 steps... No need fot a fancy "guide"
     
  13. 1) he explained basics needed for just starting out
    2) the example u just gave... How is that going to help boobs who cannot understand it?
    3) he gave facts and figures
    4) shut up
     
  14. Noobs not boobs
     
  15. Thanks Dave 
     
  16. Make a guide on behavior. Like stuff not to do in the forums. Such as making useless guides :p

    And that would be stickied faster than you could hit "post"
     
  17. 1 considering the information hasn't been passed yet it hasn't been stckied 