I'm making this thread as a follow on to HAV0C's sticky thread. His price list is good, but there isn't an indication of what stats currently ought to go with those prices... I am an average shopper with average motivation. I want allies that are valuable. I want allies that sell. Here is the list, and if you want to know more about how I came up with the numbers, you can read about that following the list. Price Min Comb BFA 1,000,581,585 76,794 1,050,610,664 78,207 1,103,141,197 79,718 1,158,298,256 81,328 1,216,213,168 83,037 1,277,023,826 84,847 1,340,875,017 86,758 1,407,918,767 88,774 1,478,314,705 90,896 1,552,230,440 93,125 1,629,841,962 95,466 1,711,334,060 97,920 1,796,900,763 100,491 1,886,745,801 103,183 1,981,083,091 105,998 2,080,137,245 108,941 2,184,144,107 112,017 2,293,351,312 115,228 2,408,018,877 118,581 2,528,419,820 122,079 2,654,840,811 125,729 2,787,582,851 129,535 2,926,961,993 133,503 3,073,310,092 137,640 3,226,975,596 141,952 3,388,324,375 146,445 3,557,740,593 151,126 3,735,627,622 156,003 3,922,409,003 161,083 4,118,529,453 166,375 4,324,455,925 171,886 4,540,678,721 177,626 4,767,712,657 183,604 5,006,098,289 189,828 5,256,403,203 196,310 5,519,223,363 203,059 5,795,184,531 210,087 6,084,943,757 217,405 6,389,190,944 225,024 6,708,650,491 232,958 7,044,083,015 241,220 7,396,287,165 249,822 7,766,101,523 258,779 8,154,406,599 268,106 8,562,126,928 277,818 8,990,233,274 287,931 9,439,744,937 298,463 9,911,732,183 309,431 10,407,318,792 320,852 10,927,684,731 332,747 11,474,068,967 345,136 12,047,772,415 358,038 12,650,161,035 371,477 13,282,669,086 385,474 13,946,802,540 400,053 14,644,142,667 415,240 15,376,349,800 431,060 16,145,167,290 447,541 16,952,425,654 464,710 17,800,046,936 482,596 18,690,049,282 501,232 19,624,551,746 520,648 20,605,779,333 540,879 21,636,068,299 561,959 22,717,871,713 583,925 23,853,765,298 606,815 25,046,453,562 630,669 26,298,776,240 655,528 27,613,715,052 681,437 28,994,400,804 708,441 30,444,120,844 736,586 31,966,326,886 765,923 33,564,643,230 796,503 35,242,875,391 828,380 37,005,019,160 861,611 38,855,270,118 896,254 40,798,033,623 932,372 42,837,935,304 970,027 44,979,832,069 1,009,288 47,228,823,672 1,050,225 49,590,264,855 1,092,910 52,069,778,097 1,137,420 54,673,267,001 1,183,836 57,406,930,351 1,232,240 60,277,276,868 1,282,720 63,291,140,711 1,335,366 66,455,697,746 1,390,275 69,778,482,633 1,447,544 73,267,406,764 1,507,279 76,930,777,102 1,569,588 80,777,315,957 1,634,584 84,816,181,754 1,702,385 89,056,990,841 1,773,115 93,509,840,383 1,846,903 98,185,332,402 1,923,885 103,094,599,022 2,004,201 108,249,328,973 2,088,000 113,661,795,421 2,175,434 119,344,885,192 2,266,666 125,312,129,451 2,361,862 131,577,735,923 2,461,200 138,156,622,719 2,564,862 145,064,453,854 2,673,041 152,317,676,546 2,785,938 159,933,560,373 2,903,761 167,930,238,391 3,026,731 176,326,750,310 3,155,076 185,143,087,825 3,289,035 194,400,242,216 3,428,858 204,120,254,326 3,574,808 214,326,267,042 3,727,157 225,042,580,394 3,886,191 236,294,709,413 4,052,208 248,109,444,883 4,225,520 260,514,917,127 4,406,454 273,540,662,983 4,595,351 287,217,696,132 4,792,566 301,578,580,938 4,998,472 316,657,509,984 5,213,459 332,490,385,483 5,437,933 349,114,904,757 5,672,321 366,570,649,994 5,917,067 384,899,182,493 6,172,636 404,144,141,617 6,439,514 424,351,348,697 6,718,209 445,568,916,131 7,009,254 467,847,361,937 7,313,202 491,239,730,033 7,630,636 515,801,716,534 7,962,162 What I did, which is laborious and neurotic and won't be repeated ever most likely, is entered the basic stats for all allies on both of my accounts- roughly 600 data points. I then calculated the total stats and price/stat for each ally, and made a scatter plot. I then used Excel's handy regression tool to calculate the best fit curve- and backed into the max price/BFA one should pay at each of the prices. From that, you can then calculate the MINIMUM stats at each price level. I hid the intermediate step- because from a quick and dirty- who cares? The formula for the regression is on the chart below, if anyone cares to use it to calculate the min stats on some OTHER prices. This method is not without flaws... For one thing, inflation makes sure is of limited use in the future, and for another- there are clearly variations among players about how motivated they are to find the BEST possible price. But, I think it's good enough for the HCBC player who doesn't want to spend more than an hour or two a day filling all their ally slots. Finally, the list is somewhat skewed toward the minimum, because it took approximately 6 hours to do the data entry, over a 24 hour period... So, I lost a lot of the best allies in that timeframe. Good to know, because if you DON'T want allies to sell, you want to use these prices as a hard maximum. If you want them gone inside 24-48 hours, then the stats shown for the next price up the ladder should be a hard minimum. In other words, buy a 196,310 stat ally priced at 5,006,098,289. Happy hunting. Hope this is useful... I'm sure some will think this is worthless, you are welcome to your opinions.
Nice job, I usually just buy 19, 40 and 93bil as it takes long enough to check if those 3 price-ranges are active.
It could be stickied for a while, I guess... I think the data will eventually expire from the standpoint it may take too long to find allies with those minimums. But, if you believe the ally market constantly inflates, those minimums are good indefinitely. At least, until T5 comes out the the leaderboard liquidates their holdings in a power grab. BWAHAHAHAHA!
From these statistics, in underpriced by 25b. I personally don't think this is too accurate, it's in the ball park but not as spot on. Like you stated, it will move as the ally market changes every day. For the most part, good info mate. Well done.
Didn't mean to hit post. Great job OP. I think it is very accurate for a base pricepoint!! Deserves sticky in my opinion. Good reference
From what i see not exactly for the point of it changing so constantly. It's definitely in that general range, it's not spot on though. I would give it a two thumbs up no doubt though.
Very accurate prices for attack builds. Hansels have a slightly steeper price curve, but great work nonetheless.
How does buying a 196,310 stat ally at 5,006,098,289 help or sell within 48 hours? I didnt really get all that with the graph
The numbers are fairly accurate and looks good with a nice effort behind it. I however wouldn't sticky due to ranges inflating with time and spys/mix builds being in different price ranges usually. That would through off things a bit for a new person to the market who might not realize the different builds cost different amounts for combined stats. If you could maybe do monthly or bi-monthly updates and have at least two list (atk build/spy build) of price ranges then I would be all for a sticky. But in the end if anyone hits the market for a bit, it's not to difficult to see what's a good stat for a price
I generally shop at 100b -200k combined, although I have multiple accounts and shop off my battlelist for my main- at any price, I can ensure they are aomewht active that way
@darth- the graph is just a plot of what's left after ~a day it took to do the DE (more than 600 records)... As a result, the better stat and more active allies aren't in the graph... It's biased to the downside. In other words, when you look at the regression, you see outliers pulling the curve up, and very few outliers at lower price/stat values. So, if you are getting a 5 bil Allie @200k stats chances are pretty good it moves quickly. It's not absolute just a probability.
Well like all things caveat emptor... They're aren't a lot of data points over 200 bil so pricing is less accurate. @A1... If you believe in ally market inflation, it's actually a better guide over time if you trade lots of allies...