In regards to the new update. I see some certain issues. I believe the Intention of this updates was to address 3 issues at once. And perhaps that's where the issues come in. Intentions as I see them. More successful lb led clans leading to better loyalty and a higher success rate for ebs and player retention. Failed ebs do not a happy kaw experience make. Gold sink for obvious reasons. Appeasing players calls for better clan structure. Game themed names. This has good intention but inadvertently created the following :- Issues Small clans funding ranks. By small clans I mean start up clans that are trying to help new players find their way into the game amd understand its layout, and Small Family orientated clans that do not want to be forced to merge as they play primarily for the benefit of a social app. Trust issues between clans that would be forced to merge with unknown players. Something most people are wary of. An over complicated solution. With far too many options, when head admin and co-owner slots would have appeased most. Accidental insulting term for many players. This one is minor. But for consistency derogatory terms should be discouraged from the game. Potential fixes. Less roles as originally intended by players. Cost increases or taxes payable upon unlocks of ebs. This spreading the cost as clans grow in size and strength. This would allow smaller clans to pay in instalments as their membership and strength and thus ability to earn increases. 50 bil for first 3 clan admins. A bundle deal as a help to set up. 20 admin spots carried over on date of change over. Given freely to existing owners of active clans. More likely to appease those who purchased clans with real money purchases. That the change of clan roles only apply to clans created after the start date of rollout thus not impacting financially upon existing smaller clans. Gold sinks and the clan bank has been suggested though I see many exploit options or greater gaps being created here but limited options could be suggested. As such I will leave those open for discussion of players and not make suggestions myself as I would in all honesty think of an exploitable option. I would be very interested to hear primarily from small clan owners that these changes will affect the most harshly. I do not see most lb players and their clans struggling to meet these costs but understand alts may be in smaller clans. If players can suggest what size of clan they manage and how they feel these changes would directly effect their clan, I feel we can better express to the devs how these changes no matter how well intentioned could be damaging to the community beyond the top levels. Also which if any of the above or different proposals would suit players best. Please limit responses to direct answers and ideas. If you want the devs to listen please make your post count.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. I had the idea of creating a progress bar for unlocking ranks, where the system takes say 2% of total EB plunder and puts it towards the unlock of the clan owners choice.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Where was the doragatory word? I didn't see any of the clan ranks that were offensive or harmful.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. small clans actually play a bigger role than most people realize, so having a better solution for them needs to happen. I do agree with a dynamic price for clans based on size. or maybe just lower the price, i really dont see why it's needed
Re: A ? for small clan owners. peasant ˈpɛz(ə)nt/ noun a poor smallholder or agricultural labourer of low social status (chiefly in historical use or with reference to subsistence farming in poorer countries). "peasant farmers" synonyms: agricultural worker, small farmer, rustic, son of the soil, countryman, countrywoman, farmhand, swain, villein, serf; More informal an ignorant, rude, or unsophisticated person. "‘That is a civilized drink, you peasant’" synonyms: lout, boor, oaf, clown, churl, yokel, bumpkin, country bumpkin, village idiot, provincial, barbarian; More So dictionary English term calling a person a peasant is calling them a lout, oaf idiot etc. These are derogatory terms. I'm sure players would be upset by being called idiots instead of members. Just as devs the other day silenced 20+ players for using a type of cake as an offensive word. If a word may be used in a derogatory way by a person player or dev it should not be used as a common kaw term for a player. Otherwise it's an obvious double standard. Because the same cake here that caused the silences means the same as idiot here and is equally offensive. That said. Again thanks for picking up the least important point on the thread that has a vote and these points being raised upon it. This was supposed to be to put all ideas in one place without distraction of complaints or trolls. As the player that suggested this thread intended.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. It's more offensive than the name of the German leader during ww2, but we aren't allowed to use that word.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Rik and dark. My thanks for your comments that are helpful and constructive.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Small clans definitely are gonna be affected..and they are a essential part of the game, and even the idea of clan bank is not gonna help them much. So I would be really interested in reading the devs reply on how small clans can manage.with the changes. One idea that just randomly came in my head as I am writing this is that maybe there can be 2 categories of clans and the one category of starters clan can only run ebs up to a certain level and they get certain slots free..but yeah this is a issue that can't be looked over
Re: A ? for small clan owners. This is an idea that should be looked into.. Also while they're at it, officially making these clans academy clans e.g I can witch between them and not lose rank?
Re: A ? for small clan owners. This Update should not Affect Current clans, 1- it should be Purchase in The oracle in case clan owner wants this implemented. 2- Fix The game , Co-owner position had been missing since clans where created.. All games always have a co-owner(head-Admin) to be able to Admin people just like owner. 3- I return to option 1, if a higher LB clans wants to call Soldier to their members have then pay for it. But Leave Current clans Alone, i still believe KaW devs/ ATA Owners Have Commonsence, this is not fun in anyway! And Will forcé people to stop playing.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. This ties in nicely to one if the proposals. And could be implemented with some extra work.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Small clans are going to be hurt by this signifantly. That makes it tuffer on new players. Which will translate to more dropouts, which translates to less $$ for you devs. Be smart. If your going to make clans more important, make 'FAMILIES' significant. Almost every signifiant starter clan is in a family. Add a relationship to cjabs in a,family. I'm sure you can figure something out.
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Support, but only if the owner or an admin approved of it taking gold from a certain eb
Re: A ? for small clan owners. I don't see any issue here....as the stronger clans get stronger this will lead to more feeder clans to help noobs replacing small clans that may have the best intentions but aren't as helpful as some feeder clans out there.... the destruction of smaller clans therfore imo is a good thing
Re: A ? for small clan owners. Parsfan feeder clans are great. But not all new players want to be forced to join an established alliance/ family of clans. The social clans that already exist that operate more like small family units do not want to have to join another clan and be told how they must play and when or even how many hits they must make. But as can be seen on this thread. Which thankfully I posted at a request. Maybe these concerns aren't going to affect many players. At least not ones with many solutions so we can just see how it goes. And hope not too many clans fall apart.