First of all :BEING VOLLEYED IS NOT A PERMANENT SOURCE OF INCOME. When you first begin the game, something happens and before you know it, you are being "volleyed" and making loads of cash without lifting a finger. You are told to build forges to Lv. 3 and nothing else. So that's what you do. You spend all the volley money you make buying forges, and then sit there when the volley ends, with 6 or so forges and no money, and no clue. So you head to the wc and start asking to be volleyed again and again. Okay. Here's the thing. ASKING TO BE VOLLEYED PAST 500mil EARLY IN THE GAME ACTUALLY HURTS YOU. Technically, when you are asking to be volleyed when you cost more than 300mil, the people volleying you are making more money then you are. While you're only making 1million with every hire, we are all raking in cash off you, about 15 mil per 200 mil your hire price goes up. Secondly, while that hire price of yours is going up through the roof, hitting a billion dollars, while your stats are still less then 200k combined, you are getting further and further away from being able to reach your max ally plunder bonus. (This is raised by owning allies worth a certain amount of money) To quote the plunder formula written by Trex: Total allies required = (Max plunders value) * 250 * (Attack troops max plunders) / (First hit plunders earned when full troops) Read more on this, there is a link on the bottom to Trex's guide. Once you hit that 60mil land, you will be left scratching your head and most likely resetting in frustration, costing whoever owns you a lot of money and most likely making them rather angry. Whenever you reset, the owner only receives 40% back of your hire price. I'd be pretty angry to wake up and discover all that money disappeared. So this is the right way to start things out. When you start the game, if you have speakers, (I am aware that those who start the game on the computer do not have them), post to WC that you are new to the game, and would like to be vollied to about 250mil. DO NOT start building with the money you make from that volley. You should make around 30mil. Take that money, head to the wc again, and start looking for other newbies, (like yourself) who have just started and would like to be volleyed. Try and find ONE other person willing to volley them with you to 30mil, they keep. (The more people involved in a volley, the less money you make) Continue to do this: Search for a new and active player Volley them with one other person, they keep Each time, you should make anywhere from 7-9mil profit, thus building up your cash. You may upgrade as needed, just try to always keep at least 30-40 mil cash saved up. NEVER spend all of your cash all at once. I know it's fun to upgrade, but the way to succeed in this game, is with patience. If you continue to do this, with each upgrade, raising the amount of cash you are keeping on hand, from 40-50-60-100, You will be able to breeze right through to your 60mil land in no time. And from then on, start trying to save up about 200mil on hand. Things will fall into place. You will figure out the rhythms and the game of volleying, and be able to rise in the game, without having to beg and be broke 90% of the time. In your free time, do quests or find a good OSF or two to attack when your troops are full. Keep yourself "pinned," (Questing or attacking until out of troops) to keep others from stealing or attacking you and taking your money. Volley wisely and play fairly, be nice, and you will enjoy this game. Lastly, I'll just give some tips on volleying, or what I do. When you start being able to toy around with more serious amounts of cash, anywhere from 300mil to 1bil, Volleying with one other person isn't quite as important. I tend to like to air on the side of caution if I am not looking to keep an ally. If you want to be more cautious, only volley players who really are new and active, and have posted on WC. Don't volley or hire when someone says "Volley '------' new and active," because sometimes those are simply scams for someone else to pick up an inactive and end up stuck with it. The volley's posted on WC usually go fast. So if you see one, and the ally is low priced, less then 1mil, then try to get your foot in the door and buy them, even if it takes some time. Then go about your business and wait for a notification to appear in your newsfeed that they have been hired away. Then go back every now and then, and jump in and try to hire once their price breaks 10mil. Even if you only manage a 4 volleys, being able to buy them when their price is above 150mil can still pull you in 15mil, with 4 or so volleys. See? Things get easier when you have more money on hand. Keep a close eye on the volleying action though, watch who is volleying, how fast, and notice when the volleying appears to be slowing. Volleying is a bit like musical chairs: If you don't plan on keeping, you need to be careful or you'll end up with a 600mil ally with mediocore stats when the music stops. When someone is advertising a supposedly active ally, and you aren't sure, here are some things to look for: 1. Are there wall posts 2. How many "accomplishments" have they unlocked 3. Are they in a clan 4. Do their stats seem appropriate for their price Oh and also, if they have wall posts where the post date is "Long ago", chances are, they are inactive. This was a bit patchy, I apologize, but I was just trying to offer some advice. Good luck to you all. If anyone has questions, wall me any day. For more specific information refer to these guides: The KAW Handbook: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14619 Ally Plunder/Volleying/Plunder Bonus Guide: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10685
WRONG! Your max plunder has nothing to do with you, it's for your owner. Plunder is raised by building building (not towers) and buying allies. Your cost means nothing except for your owner, and the value LB.
Yeah that's what I'm saying, your hire cost doesn't matter, it's your max plunder bonus that matters. And that increases as you are hired.
Max plunder is generally the plunder YOU get from allies. Plunder to owner is the plunder value to your owner, based off hire cost.
Hmmm. Okay. I suppose this is the best guide I've seen as far as ally plunder bonus and formulas go: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10685
Yes your max plunder bonus to allies increases as you are bought, not just as you build. I haven't bought anything new in a while, but my plunder bonus to allies increased when I was hired, even though I had not bought anything new.
Hahaha I know soandso is not a person, just using that in place of an actual name, lol I apologize to the KAW community if there are errors in this. I'm honestly not much of a formula person. But I can tell you for SURE, that the more you cost or the more your plunder bonus to allies is, if nothing else, it is an indicator of how much you need to be investing in allies to reach your max plunder bonus. And in order to buy allies worth hundreds of millions or billions, you are going to need to do a lot of work to raise that money, if nothing else. I'm just trying to point out to newbies that being volleyed isn't a fantastic source of income after a certain point, and spending all your money at once is not wise. Also that the players who have risen have put a lot of blood sweat and tears into raising their money and should not be ragged on for not hiring someone who is 3bil and won't do the work themselves. It's just kind of a pet peeve of mine to look into wc and see people who cost 1 or 2 or 3bil asking for volleys.