My commentary based on this article https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... piens-book Plot to create a "useless class" now that Trump won and the elite ruling class want to destroy USA, they admit they have AI but no one really knows exactly when it was invented, they are pushing for an army of robots to replace all human workers, as that is happening we still have to pay the elite to live, so their solution is to give everyone a base income for doing nothing and we know by their character that it will barely be enough to survive, they will keep everyone right in the edge of poverty so as people go off the edge they will have to commit some crime, and no one will ever be able to become financially independent because we are the "useless class" and unhireable, there just won't be any jobs and we will be forced to rely on the benevolence of the state to survive, while any dissent will be met with cutting off your base income, meanwhile farming and living off the land will be illegal (already is in most states), having children will be a crime, that's if we are not all sterilized at birth, you can imagine the level of control the elite are pushing for, population reduction is inevitable so the elite can save money while the rest of us are slaves to robots who police us, news laws created without any say from the "useless class" will simply be uploaded to the machines for instant enforcement, any idea that we were once a free and self governing people will be punished, also having computer implants directly into our brains would create a race of literal zombies that do not move because they are playing virtual reality games in their heads and interconnected to eachother by the web and new programming and thoughts that are not our own be directly uploaded controlling our moods and world view could drive anyone to suicide with the press of a button, and that is if your not murdered by enforcement robots first, at that point there will be no where to hide, no where to run, there is no way to fight this unless we destroy the world economy and replace it with humanity and the golden rule, I hope people wake up soon because they don't listen to me, https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... piens-book
No, I'm not going anywhere, they'll have to kill me, this is my land and I'll defend it vs domestic enemies as it is my duty
It seems to me that this "useless human" class already exists. What hasn't been implemented is the "state benevolence" that completely supports this useless human. Just think about it. How much unemployment do we already have? Also think about the universities which are a fraud. The ones whose titles aren't recognized anywhere. The people who unknowingly graduate from these aren't gonna be getting any jobs with their careers anywhere, so they'll have to live for a while by working at places like McDonalds or Uber, until what you suggest is ready to happen. Question is, how do you not fall into this class of useless humans? You'll have to have lots of money to enter Ivy League universities for sure. Maybe the implementation of this system altogether is what will cause what Karl Marx predicted long ago: the end of the middle class and its subsequent war to take the power off of the hands of the bourgeoisie.
Very interesting op, I'll give you that. I'm a bit sketchy when it comes to conspiracies... However, that Trump is Still in office bears greater implication to such conspiracies as possible lol. We've had AI tech for years. AI is a wonderfully scary thought though- first off, who or what created life? And second, are we yet again trying to play the role of "God" by creating AI. And at what boundary line does AI lose it's 'artifical" label and move into the realm of 'living'. But I digress, I think it's worth being weary of this new form of "useless human class". That goes back to Socialism, forced equality with no emphasis or motivation for effort to improve our life. **Fun Fact- No "democrats" are not socialists lmfao. Lookup Webster's definition of Socialsm. In theory, an appealing concept... but the undertones are scary. I'll have to think on this, cool article
Yeah we already do have this useless class, you can even see it in that article, they associate the human with his job title of "insurance agent" trying to reinvent himself, In reality he is still a man and that never changes no matter what hat he wears, the ruling class don't see humans they only recognize the job title, and we are indoctrinated to accept this world view Just ask anyone "who are you" they will tell you "I'm a bank teller" or "I'm a garbage man" we are not a fictional job title that dont exist outside the mind This is a dangerous idea and world view and it starts in elementary school with that one question we are all asked "what do you want to be when you grow up?" I'm already a man why do I have to be something else to fit into this control system You see that this article, the insurance agent example has zero value to the control system of he loses his job I see the world a little different, people naturally want to do good and want to feel good, and helping others makes us feel good The farmer likes to grow food because he wants to feed the hungry, so if the world economy is replaced with humanity as I say, society would be entirely voluntary You hand out clothing because it makes you feel good to help others, people are going to get bored and eventually volunteer to help someone If someone gets greedy and takes all the toilet paper in town, everyone will come to that guy to get the toilet paper and he will become the guy who hands it out It is natural for us to want to help each other, no income or trade is required and if we have an army of robots will that's even better No good Samaritan demands payment before pulling you out of a burning car, he does it because he would want someone to help him in that way If every car starts without a key and if a house is empty you just live in it, if we share everything with eachother freely then what goes around comes around There would be no need for crime as long as we focus on getting resources to those who need it, if your hungry go to the restraunt of no one is there to cook, then you cook, and while your cooking you can make a couple extra burgers for the next few hungry people It would work if we work it, we all could create a paradise of we just get over the taxes, the interest rates, insurance, and the threats of violence if we don't do what we are told
This paradise you speak of is my paradise. We refer to this as a "resource-based economy," where you work for the benefit of all, and where your payment is in the form of resources that you need, and no more. However, it won't work as long as there is greed. Until you can remove the greed from at least a great majority of the people, this system is impossible to implement.
Where you see hell I see heaven op A real life paradise , a life long vacation , a world where nobody goes hungry, nobody is homeless and with renewable energy all this could be free, no monetary circulation is needed as everything worth money is preformed by robots. That is, until the robots want equality
Yeah the robots make everything but no one has money to buy anything because they don't have money If everyone is under a welfare state your going to be a slave working 15 hours for very little food and the government will decide where you live, and the toilet will be next to the refrigerator The system we have now is not fit for humans, you are a customer or you are an employee, where does the family come in? It's not even in the equation Money stops progress Everyone wants to feed hungry people in Africa but who is going to pay for it? Instead of just doing it because it's the right thing to do and needs to be done No one does anything because they don't have the money to pay for the food and the boats If we only get rid of interest and tax the abundance would be so great we would have to give it away or it goes to waste We are already paying farmers to not grow crops to create artificial scarcity while the demand stays the same and drive the prices up, Is not illegal to dig a hole but if it rains and fills with water your going to prison because we have a tax on living and we aren't free you must pay for municipal water supply that's got anti depressants and makes you commit suicide
I don't believe AI is in itself a bad thing, I can see it being a useful tool However once it is uploaded to a robot with mobility, that could be a disaster like the terminator or matrix