Trump's Big Ban

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by The_Big_Bang_Theory, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. You know what is funny? Only far right leaders are cheering Trump's actions. If you love far right actions that much I'm wondering why on Earth did you guys fought in WW2? You should just let the german leader to take over the world if you guys love fascism so much.
     
  2. Says the far right football hooligan
     
  3. @hammer don't think another holocaust is the answer you nutjob
     
  4. Who mentioned holocaust? I know I didn't. There are many examples of an individual causing great harm to the many all throughout history.
     
  5. Far left not far right. And football ultras not football hooligan.
     
  6. Why would there be cries? That never happened.

    Trump’s facile claim that his refugee policy is similar to Obama’s in 2011
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... bce4279374

    That's interesting, considering I've been hearing you and people like you crying and having temper tantrums over Obama for the almost seven years I've been playing here.

    I'm pretty sure you aren't a WW2 vet, so what's this "We" stuff? You weren't there. Don't take credit for their valor. You're the generation wetting your pants over terrorism so much you were willing to trade freedoms for a false sense of security.

    I already blew that one out of the water. Try again.

    June 24, 1986
    U.S. Becomes the World's Largest Debtor Country
    http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-24/ ... nvestments

    June 25, 1986
    U.S. Becomes World's No. 1 Debtor Nation
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 117e61c14e

    I'm pretty sure Reagan was in charge then, I remember voting for him. The federal debt was $994 billion when Reagan took office in 1981, and grew to $2.9 trillion when his second term ended. Reagan nearly tripled our debt, a larger increase than either Bush2 or Obama. Yet many right wingers worship him as some kind of economic genius. Go figure. Here's the thing. You want less debt, good roads, better infrastructure? Tell Republicans to stop borrowing and spending, and start making people like Trump pay some flipping income taxes.


    Stop lying.

    The only whimps here appear to be Trump supporters. Here are some fun facts for you, courtesy of the Libertarian CATO institute:

    "The order would ban all people entering the United States from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, and Yemen, and yet no terrorist from these places has carried out a lethal attack in the United States. Indeed, no Libyans or Syrians have even been convicted for planning such an attack. Moreover, the likelihood of being killed by any refugee from any country is just 1 in 3.64 billion a year. This discrimination is arbitrary and cannot be rationally justified based on a assessment of the risk."
    https://www.cato.org/blog/five-reasons- ... efugee-ban

    Odds of being killed by a refugee? 1 in 3.6 billion. You have much better odds of winning the flipping Powerball. That's only 1 in 292 million.

    The Conservative Daily Caller makes the same call:

    "Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

    Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years."
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/natio ... z4XFWNAWwc

    "The chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are about 1 in 20 million. A person is as likely to be killed by his or her own furniture, and more likely to die in a car accident, drown in a bathtub, or in a building fire than from a terrorist attack."
    http://www.lifeinsurancequotes.org/addi ... tatistics/

    Trumps ban will do nothing to make America safer. You people are wetting your pants over a tiny threat. Man up and grow a pair. You're embarrassing America.
     
  7. Actually, we're both a republic and a democracy. All republics are democracies. Not all democracies are republics. FYI Canada isn't a true democracy either. As for the "grand scale", Trump lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million and his electoral margin win ranks 46th out of 58. Obama’s electoral margins rank 32nd (in 2008), and 37th (in 2012). Plus Obama won the popular vote, twice. Grand scale, my ass.


    According to the Associated Press, Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for Trump. Here's the thing. The less than 500 counties Clinton won generated 64% of America's economic activity in 2015. Clinton won most of the America economy.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... a846388cdb

    Here's some more rain on your parade:

    "If Obama’s current approval rating of 57 percent holds through Friday, he would rank behind only Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Dwight Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy since World War II. Based on a simple linear model, that rating indicates experts will ultimately rank Obama about 12th among all presidents...Similarly, a 2014 survey of political scientists put him at No. 18."
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... y-history/


    They didn't and I have. I'm an American. Trump is my President. What I don't accept is you lying about it being some kind of grand victory and mandate from the American people. It wasn't.
     
  8. I'm just happy so many people are paying attention to what our public servants are doing

    If this continues into the future indefinitely, where everyone watches if they're holding up to their campaign promises, which no President has done in a very long time

    And everyone picks apart every single paper that's signed, and every word that is said

    Is going to be very hard for the fascists to march us twards a world government were we the people have no control and just maybe we can keep our independence our ancestors fought and died for so we can be a free and independent people

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=po-5a0bdRe8
     
  9. Please don't be mad ️
     
  10. World War II was a rescue mission and I can prove it, first read my thread called symbols of murica!!! United States Inc has been fascist for a long time, even before World War 1



    I believe Trump is defeating fascism in America, normal people are not happy with the direction we have been heading for a long time,

    He promised to drain the swamp and that is what got him elected, and that's what he is trying to do,

    Here is the proof about WW2, decide for yourself, my opinion it was the same bankers who control our federal reserve got upset Germany fixed its economy without their "loans", issued a new currency

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLTedp ... Img3xcT2UI

    There are 6 videos on this playlist really you only need to see half of the first video and the second video
     
  11. @x_x Sorry but when it's about YouTube conspiracy theories I rather watch Taylor Swift ones.
     
  12. What is Hijra?

    Hijrah is when large scale mass migrations become invasions. What is happening in parts of Europe right now, actually appears to be a hijrah as the Quran describes it. This is NOT going to end well. Because it appears the policies of the liberal socialist leaders in Europe and the US do not want to keep their lands from being overrun.

    Why? I couldn't figure out why other Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, etc.) weren't taking in refugees, so I started digging. Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order to bring Islam there and is considered in Islam to be a holy and revered action. "And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah." Surah 4:100.
     
  13. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE do take refugees. They just don't call and threat them as such. Why? For a simple reason: they didn't signed to UN convention on refugees. In Gulf countries what we call "refugees" they are called "arab brothers and sisters in distress". Saudia Arabia is claiming that since the conflict started ovrr 2.5 millions of Syrians entered in Saudia Arabia. And one more thing:97% of Syria war refugees are hosted in muslim countries: Turkey, Lebanon, Egipt, Jordan and Iraq.
     

  14. Yes Saudi Arabia made such claims, yet there's no proof. There's no way to get proof. Before the war Syrias population was about 22million, 3million have fled and about 5million were displaced. Yet Saudi Arabia took in 2.5million? Of which none live in camps or tents and all have proper homes as per Saudi Arabia. Sounds very true huh.
     
  15. Well Saudi Arabia claim that they are not keeping refugees in camps. They are claiming that syrians got residence permits and are intrgrated in the society.
     

  16. If anyone needs something belted up their ass it's you bang theory.

    Spare us all your leftard tears, and quietly vaporlock in the corner
     

  17. Clinton won the popular vote? Was that with 3million illegals or deceased people? The electoral college is there to prevent inner city tree huggers and neck beard losers from deciding what they want as a result versus what the people of the nation want.
     
  18. Vlad talking  again
     
  19. Three million votes were illegally cast in the election?

    Well, if that's true Cupcake, it means the presidency, the congress, the court, all of it is illegitimate. It means no matter how the election turned out – all elections local, state, and federal – no matter who won, the results cannot be trusted and must be declared invalid. It means that if three million votes were indeed cast illegally, then the recent election MUST be declared null and void in toto and the government of the United States must be dissolved. By force, if necessary, as you conservatives are fond of pointing out by waving their assault rifles and the Declaration of Independence over their heads.

    But of course we know that's not going to happen because you're full of manure. There is zero evidence, none, nada, zip, that 3 million votes were cast illegally. I challenge you and any other pinhead, including Trump, to produce evidence to back up your manure. Put up or shut, Cupcake.

    And no, the reason we have an electoral college is because the founders didn't trust the people to make good choices. They even said so:

    "As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-re ... l-college/

    "Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census)."
    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f ... lworks.htm

    If it were to keep lower populated states from being overridden by higher populated states, electors wouldn't be granted to states based on their number of representatives, which is based on their populations, now would they? That would kinda defeat the whole purpose, wouldn't it?

    FYI, I'm not left or right. I'm a pragmatic centrist. I don't care for extremists on either side, nor do I care for fools who can't even do basic research or basic thinking.
     
  20. Think this is a pretty interesting read relating to the point given above as this has in it a former Muslim speaking:


    "The War of Civilizations Has Just Begun!"

    The powerful truth revealed below is what ANY American President MUST understand, and from which he MUST protect the American people.

    For eight years, unmitigated access was allowed to individuals committed to this very thought. Even as I write, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) is conducting a press conference claiming that their rights are being denied and their liberties infringed. CAIR is nothing more than a front organization for the Muslim Brotherhood--the very entity that President Trump has said needs to be labeled a terrorist organization. He is RIGHT!

    Islamic Sharia Law is antithetical to the U.S. Constitution. The sinister deceptions revealed below from this former Muslim is precisely what CAIR has implemented and is practicing to perfection daily--along with a multiplicity of other Muslim front organizations, like ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) and MPAC (Muslim Political Action Committee).

    So, America, it's time to wake up! Mr. Trump, don't waver!!!

    _________________________________________________

    I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breath with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. The following is the Islamic message to the West.

    We will fight the infidel to death.

    - American laws will protect us.
    - Democrats and Leftist will support us.
    - N.G.O.s will legitimize us.
    - C.A.I.R. will incubate us.
    - The A.C.L.U. will empower us.
    - Western Universities will educate us.
    - Mosques will shelter us
    - O.P.E.C. will finance us
    - Hollywood will love us.

    Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US and to the other Western countries. They will go to the West for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools.

    We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.

    We will take the advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes, we will stab them in the back. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will give subliminal messages to our children to uphold Islam at any cost. Our children in America will always care more about Islamic Country’s interest than US interest.

    We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US will be the next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and now in the US.

    Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when time comes. Who are we?

    We are the “sleeper cells”.

    We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad only. Everything else is secondary.

    At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”.

    We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”,
    Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets. Keep your aircraft carrier or high-tech weaponry in the showcase. You can't use them against us because of your own higher moral standard. We will take the advantage of your higher moral standard and use it against you. We won’t hesitate to use our children as suicide bomber against you.

    Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundreds of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.

    West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the way it is cheaper.

    You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

    On the camera:

    - We will always say, “Islam is the religion of Peace.”
    - We will say, “Jihad is actually inner Jihad.”
    - Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.
    - Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadist by their talk by defending Islam.
    - Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.
    - We will increase in number. We will double again.

    You will be impressed when you meet a moderate Muslim personally. As your next-door neighbor, coworker, student, teacher, engineer, professionals you may even like us. You will find us well mannered, polite, humble that will make you say, “wow, Muslims are good and peaceful people”, But, we will stab you in your back when you are sleeping as we did on 911.

    There will be more 911 in Europe and in America. We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.”

    Muslims, CAIR, ISNA, MPAC and other international Islamic Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt. The war of civilizations has just begun.

    We will recite Quran and say Allah-Hu-Akbar before beheading infidels, as we have been doing it. We will video tape those and send it to all infidels to watch. They will surrender - ISLAM means surrender.

    We will use your own values of kindness against you.

    You are destined to loose.