Dc vs Marvel

Discussion in 'Other KaW Discussion' started by Safety, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. probably too long so a part 2&3 possibly

    corner: The DC Universe


    ​Characters who are the stuff of legends, superheroes whose existence forever DEFINED what superheroes were supposed to look like:
    Legendary beings who have over the course of their Universe's written existence, threatened it almost as often as they saved it,
    The home of the most complexly-woven collection of stories, with the greatest number of participants, writers, artists, and editors;
    Composed of legions of superheroes, from various companies, over numerous decades, bound together from the Golden Age of Comics forward
    to be ever assembled in the written history of the world, until today, these are the legendary, the incomparable, the Gods, Monsters and Guardians of the DC Universe!

    In this corner: The Marvel Universe

    ​​From superheroes who were men granted the power of gods, men with feet of clay and whose heroes weren't much better at least half the time,
    Created by the House of Ideas in the sixties, spearheaded by two legendary mad geniuses, to the House of Mouse, a titan of cinematic industry in the 2000s to whom these heroes can claim a part of,
    A collection of mysterious entities who underlie the very fabric of their Universe, each master of their particular domain but always willing to do the unthinkable to gain new cosmic real estate,
    The Wielders of the Power Cosmic, masters of the fundamental forces, lords of all they surveyed at every level of the universe known to their uncanny perceptions, let's welcome the Cosmic and Conceptual Entities of the Marvel Universe!

    Gonna set some ground rules here:
    There will be few known superheroes in this particular struggle. Why? Because they are simply too small to matter when you are talking about including EVERY cosmic power from both groups.
    I am not going to bring EVERY cosmic entity ever printed in either group. Instead, I am bringing the biggest of the big, the heaviest of the heavy.
    If an entity made this list, they are considered one of the most powerful entities to have ever existed in comic literature.
    We included the Presence (DC) and the One-Above-All (Marvel) only for completeness
    We are also going to assume that each Universe's, completely omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent self is indeed the same entity and they shall both sit out this rumble, drinking Gin and Tonics watch the multi-dimensional, trans-temporal, celestial-membrane occluding fireworks show.

    THE DC LINE-UP


    ​The Presence: Yes, the main Man/Dog/Woman/Noodlely-appendaged One, the ultimate arbiter of the DC Universe has never truly been explained, dealt with or even fully acknowledged. Sometimes its equated as just another deity (especially where the Greek and other Earth deities are concerned) but other times it is expressed as the Ultimate Power in the Multi-Omniverse... The Presence in the DC Universe has taken numerous forms throughout history, including:
    The Voice - The disembodied Voice of God that spoke to and empowered Jim Corrigan as the Spectre. This is the most "active" version of God seen, to the point that it even answers the Spectre's prayers by resurrecting the murdered Justice Society. When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word, and it was already being traced by Destiny in his book.
    The Hand - The appearance of a hand coming out of a nebula was sighted at the moment of universal creation. This is the presence that the rogue Guardian Krona saw when he went back to the beginning of time. The hand was seen again by Swamp Thing, Deadman, and the Phantom Stranger when Heaven was threatened by a Great Darkness.
    The Source - The universal spirit venerated by the New Gods, which resides beyond the Source Wall. It is thought of as the intelligence aspect of the Presence's infinite scope. (See more below...)
    The Presence - The unseen entity who commands the allegiance of the host of angels, including Zauriel.
    Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient, it/they already know the outcome of this battle and are simply enjoying a drink with itself...


    THE BIG GUNS
    The Archangels of the Celestial Host


    Representing the Prime Creator of the Universe/Multiverse: who won't participate because s/he doesn't need to.
    The Demiugic Archangels: Gabriel Hornblower, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, with the Spectre coming in a distant FOURTH. There are other archangels but they get limited play in most of the written works of the DC Universe. Besides, these three are all that are needed. They are the most powerful angels in the Heavenly Host by a wide margin.
    For them, reality is whatever they deem it to be. As agents of the Presence in the DC Universe, very little is beyond their ability: shattering reality, making new dimensions, creating parallel realms and destroying them just as easily. In most mythologies they would be considered gods themselves. These beings are cosmic forces of nature wearing the appearance of people.
    Their weapons are also incredibly powerful capable of altering reality itself. Michael's Sword for example, can cut literally anything, including otherwise intangible objects and people, other energies and forces, even dimensional fabric of space time between two locations.
    Their greatest limitation is the need for direction from the Presence or God who seems to take very little direct interest or interaction in the DC Universe. As such, they don't tend to do much any more. Lucifer appears to be the most motivated of the lot.
    Major battles

    Aquaman won by crushing Namor with his whale.
    Elektra (Marvel) vs. Catwoman (DC). Elektra won by making Catwoman fall off a building.
    Flash (DC) vs. Quicksilver (Marvel). Flash won due to his superior speed and can punch Quicksilver with his Supersonic Punch and eventually will murder Quicksilver.
    Robin (DC) vs. Jubilee (Marvel). Robin (Tim Drake) won by using his cape as a decoy and then by tying up Jubilee.
    Silver Surfer (Marvel) vs. Green Lantern (DC). Silver Surfer won when both collided with each other and released a huge explosion which knocked out Green Lantern but Silver Surfer was unfazed
    Thor (Marvel) vs. Captain Marvel (DC). Thor won when Captain Marvel was forced to change back to his alter ego Billy. Billy tried to change back but Thor exerted control over him using the magic lightning and the resulting blow caused his hammer to fly off and Billy to fall unconscious.
    There were other primary battles, with the outcomes determined by a comic fact:

    Superman (DC) vs. Hulk (Marvel). Superman wins in an all out brawl.
    Spider-Man (Marvel) vs. Superboy (DC). Spider-Man wins by electrocuting Superboy.
    Batman (DC) vs. Captain America (Marvel). Batman won by knocking Captain America out with his batarang. Initially both are evenly matched but then a sudden wave of water (their battle takes place in a sewer) knocks Cap off balance as the both throw their weapons. Batman's batarang strikes Cap's forehead, while Cap's shield misses.
    Wolverine (Marvel) vs. Lobo (DC). Wolverine beats Lobo in a brutal barfight which was largely off panel.
    Storm (Marvel) vs. Wonder Woman (DC). Wonder Woman won the fight after repeatedly hitting Diana with her lightning after a brief melee encounter Diana can block the lightning with her shield, after Storm focusing on attacking Diana with her thunder Diana keep blocking the Thunder with her shield and Diana comes closer and swing her sword and eventually kill Storm and Storm split into 2 pieces.
    Cyborg (DC) vs. Ironman (Marvel). Cyborg won because he can hack into ironman suit system and cyborg can hack jarvis system so that Tony Stark will never be able to control his own suit.
    Hawkman (DC) vs. Falcon (Marvel). Hawkman won in all Brawl in land and in air, because his strong Durability and strong attack.
     
  2. DC destroys Marvel any day of the week
     
  3. Imma just keep doing this since this is really long
     
  4. Marvel stole/borrowed nearly every single one of their characters from DC.. So this is not even up for discussion..



    Oh and Batman wins, Batman always wins

     
  5. 
     
  6. Sorry as long as one side has Superman ... That side wins ... Most judge superman in his goody two shoes persona .. Piss him off he kills everyone
     
  7. In simulations from some computer gaming company goku beat superman a lot more than the other way around.

    Also, Dr Manhatten beats all but that's cheating
     
  8. The hulk would rock stuperman
     
  9. Not even close...DC has the better characters
     
  10.  it sure does if you're 12 years old.
     
  11. Marvel is a paupers dc.
     
  12. This really boils down to which side has the hottest chicks
     
  13. Hulk can be knocked out by superman man than superman can snap his neck
     
  14. C'mon mate. How can anyone seriously not love the hulk, Spider-Man, dead pool, wolverine and daredevil ?
     
  15. dc's cinematic universe is so bad.
    I mean batman vs superman was a massive flop.

    Someone who still pays attention to dc comics...
    How bad is the new 52?
     
  16. Well marvel made their own copies of the some heroes and young hero teams from dc
     
  17. Enough said....
     
  18. Truth they steal from each other.

    Wild Dog was a copy of Punisher
    Darksied copy of Thanatos
    Cyborg copy of Deathlok


    And besides the comic book was released it was a draw.

    Now yes one could say Hulk was a copy of the original superman.

    Truth with fiction is it is inspired by what was n whats coming.