Americans and Their Crazy Parties

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by -MF-, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. Hello Forums,

    Jakob here, and I’ve got a few questions about some American Politics. I know, this may be completely opposite from what you expected. But hey, talking some politics may be good for you. Anyway, I recently moved from Linz, Austria and I’ve noticed American politics are quite odd. Well, the voters at least.

    Anyway, talking with some of my American friends, most of them say people are just voting based on their political party and not their candidates beliefs. So, basically this is quite odd in my mind, people are only voting for someone since they identify with the same party and don't care about their ideals or beliefs. They say most seem to only want their party in power, and don’t care too much about their ideals or beliefs. They told me they'll vote for someone only because they are from the same political party! So, does this American Idea of how they should only vote for their own political party they identify with kind of destroy American politics?

    Also, another thing. A couple Americans said they don't vote since their vote doesn’t really matter. I looked into this, and you’ve got a thing called the “Electoral College” that’s ran by people who you don’t know, and if the state you vote in doesn’t feel like it, they can override your votes.

    So I’m asking this:

    - Is it very common in America for people to vote for someone only because they're from same party?

    - If you do, why do you do this?

    - Why has the electoral college lasted this long if they can override their people's votes and put your votes where they want?

    - Is an average American okay with the idea of the Electoral College being able to overrule your votes if they feel like?


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    Discuss ;)
     
  2. It is, unfortunately, very common for people to vote based solely on political party. However, many people are now beginning to look at candidates votes more and more, due to the recent elections.

    And about the Electoral College, a person's votes actually do matter, and the reason is that people don't understand the Electoral College. See, voters don't directly vote for a candidate. They vote for electors. Electors are the guys that make up the Electoral College. The states make each have a number of electors, determined by population and how they divide it up. The electors (the people you originally vote for) promise to vote for whatever candidate, and if people like that candidate, they vote for the electoral. On the ballots, it says the names of candidates, but that's because electors don't campaign that much. I don't know why the Founding Fathers made it that way, but they did, and it works a lot better than it sounds, most of the time.


    Glad to have you here man. Welcome to the States.
     
  3. What in the world are you blabbering about? Is everyone taking crazy pills?!
     
  4. I think Canada shares that same fault but ppl switch parties.
    In Canada its Liberal, Progressive Conservative, and New Democrats
    Liberals are in 100 days ago with a landslide majority. I see it as a very positive change and I'm a red sweater liberal. Would vote for them blindly as their platform is and has been my ethic since I could vote. I could be swayed if the other parties offered a better local mp
    England US then Canada follow common law brought to both of us from England.
    US law cases are still quoted Canadian quarts. Quebec and Louisiana are Civil Law like Europe.
    The difference between US and Canada have two huge ones. The Executive is the Queen Her Privy Council made of members of parliament Lieutenant Governors and Governors Generals. The Judicial is hired in Canada and have no political control over them. Their measure is the law society.
    Parliament the Legislature, are all elected from all provinces and territories. The Prime Minister can only create his cabinet from elected bodies from parliament.

    In the US judges are elected. The Executive is not England. The President can bring his high school buddies come run the country with him. So they really elect a President.

    Despite both being common law they are very different.
     
  5. 1. Learn how the United States political system works. At its core not what is in the media or based on biased polls.
    2. The most essential voting option you should consider is your local election.

    *Unless you are in a major metropolitan area that is under some duress and needs something essentially that only the federal government can supply. I.e. New Orleans which stays afloat (punny huh) due to subsidies and federal aid.

    3. We live in a country that has checks and balances so even if we get an extremist the republican senate and house majority can always veto.

    4. #3 can be problematic for a party line voting if a electorate takes office who has a history for in line party voting...

    5. #3 can be problematic for opposite extreme policies views due to everything like budgets, social reform, and racial issues. Everything grinds to a halt.

    6. The electoral college is hardly (if ever) used in deciding the next president.

    Every system has flaws and every system is unique in its own way. Emerse yourself in it if you really want to understand it. Just like any other system in the world.

    Tl:dr
    (You didn't read so who cares what t was about lol)

    Read this tho.

    A piece of advice to know:

    Google news Corp, and look at its subsidiaries. Hint: don't trust news, form your own opinions!

    Also Google g4s.
     
  6. I love your name ;)
     
  7. I shall, seems the paranoia everyone always jokes about is true. :)
     
  8. I'd suggest investing in an American Government course or text book instead of getting it from KaW forums.
     
  9. In America most people don't vote because they weren't educated enough to understand our voting system. Myself vote for whichever president I feel would be for the good of the country and her people. I'm leaning more torwards republican this time only because Obama is a democrat and he was crap, while Hillary Clinton can't be trusted and I don't take kindly to people(Bernie sanders) who think socialism is good for America, Donal trump is a quack, I like his ideals just not him and Marco rubio(or something like that) seems to corruptiable to me so my logical answer is ted Cruz, basically same ideals of trump except not as stupid
     
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  11. America thinks it is the best at everything, here is yet another example of why it is not. You can add to this the appalling murder rate,cops that are out of control killing people. Racism, companies ripping of the working man and the economy and not paying taxes. We could go on and on. Standby for those too blind to see to jump down my throat. Canada is a much better example of democracy in action.