But before the update, it was possible for everyone to have admin; now each role is limited and less powerful apart from owner. No role except owner can do all functions - even War Cheif is one card from a full set, as they cannot mute
I'm pretty sure no-one asked for these kind of changes - a mute button, yes; the rest? I don't think so I honestly liked it the way it was, I didn't ask for any changes, but if we are to have some, why can't we have good ones? And in what way are the limits on positions helpful?
Thats what i like about the roles. And what i meant in the above quote is, by roles having specific and limited abilities, more of your members will get to have a more involved function. The more you involve, the more the clan benifits. I understand that this update isnt smaller clan friendly, but i still believe its better for kaw in the long run. And again, 420 bill split up between a small clan isnt expensive. 50bill is the cost of the two most needed positions. Eb starter and clan applications. Thats 4 a piece. They can pay for it themselves.
But @Twinky, we shouldn't have them as different roles; assigning roles makes more sense. We can have them separately, not to mention the costs, which you may consider low, but my clan still cannot really afford, but I still think it makes a lot more sense to have them together. Why should an applicant stay waiting at the door while an admin position person is online? And just to have that doubtable privilege, we have to pay for something that used to be free and less restricting. And still, even with these, to make it worse, there is a limit on the admin-position numbers. Less restrictions on the roles is the way to go
The roles came out the same day as the event rewards, if you can't even get The 10k rewards you shouldn't be running a clan
I could indeed reach 10k, but that would require me to leave my clan for a long period of time, and possibly spend nobility on PvP/HTE. I don't want to have to do either of those; and why should I leave my clan, to earn positions in it? Without leaving the clan, I don't stand a chance in the event to be honest. We're a small clan doing small EBs. We wouldn't and don't earn nearly enough event items to get to a goal as high as 10,000 But let's say I did reach 10,000. Now I can spend my 2 trillion, which is a huge amount, on admin positions that were free before, instead of upgrading. I could get a whole 2 war chiefs (yay) So two admins for 2 trillion.
You shouldn't have to leave your clan, I've hit one Eb all event and im at 9k right now (not one kind of Eb, one Eb in total). And once you upgrade your admins to the 50b position they can unlock roles too, 4 noobs with the 10k reward can buy all the slots
The new roles are cool but don't add a limit to how many you can have and make them free, pretty much if you are making a new clan you aren't going to be able to grow because running war beasts 24/7 will take forever to even make the cheapest rank of 50m.... Also clans come and go It would be stupid I had to invest like 1T just for ranks when a clan could be disbanded in minutes :/ No cap on positions Make free
But what kind of EB? We can't complete anything above Abandoned Kingdom. And we'd have to find 4 people willing to give up a large amount if we were to follow that plan. I don't want to make people pay for something that should be free and is restricted, especially not that huge amount of money they earn the from a total of 8 weeks of event
Not necessarily, you are speculating a possibility. People might also think that it's too much work to try for these expensive positions and stop trying altogether to work for them. I disagree, going through these clans learning the community first hand before getting into a larger clan is part of the game. You learn from this and use the skills learned to progress and get into real clans. This is assuming you can get people who are willing to do this in the first place. And usually if people are going to be active and work for their position they will do that regardless if your owner handles them right. That's right and it most likely won't change as a result of having ranks be more expensive in clans. This is quite a large sum of money for smaller people wanting to try their hand at owning a clan. Even if it isn't very successful, you are paying for the experience and raising the price is only making that harder. Other than that though, I'm a fan of your current system. It does allow people to focus on doing one job that they can handle rather than say just given admin in which they can be overwhelmed or stop caring from an owner's overuse of it. Anyways though, that's my opinion I guess. No hard feelings.
This is what I'm saying keep the roles just make them free and it will be good because new players will be able to start a clan and grow instead of having to spend 1T+ on clan roles
But then you got it from PvP, which really needs sealed breathes, and HTE also gives the most of any EB; God knows we all know that. Even if I stayed and aimed for a lower tier reward, to avoid being hit by appearing on the battle list, I have to be pretty much inactive to get a good reward, and set early alarms to unload. After doing all that, I don't want to spend money on positions; I want to use that hard earned gold to upgrade! Even then, I can't unlock many good slots. Assuming I managed to collect 8 TRILLION, or even 2 trillion, I am limited in positions, which themselves are restricting. There are some combinations you cannot have, for example. If we are to do this, surely deciding which privileges to give is the way to go?
Uhm... Yeah, i know. Im presenting a positive possibility. Its not that unreasonable of a scenario. Is it really? The only people i can think its expensive for are thoughs who arent active enough to ru a clan, and accounts that are under 5mill cs. The 5mill and small accounts are growing crazy fast to nowdays I have a small alt, a couple actually. They can earn the 420 bill i mentioned earlier in a rather short time by being only moderately active. No problem. Im not trying to say anyone is wrong about their opinions on how this will work down the road, but if you cant/wont spend on the clan roles cause you'd rather be upgrading, then you dont realize how much a clan leader sacrifices to build a successful clan. i dont mean "you" of course. I mean "you" in a general sense.
MY 200th post!!!! lol even I agree! Everyday people criticize ATA beyond limits! That demotivates every single developer!
Fair points you make, I can see that being understandable. Either way I doubt our points we made will make any impact though, we can only wait and hope for the best.
Sealed breaths aren't needed for pvp, spend 1T on the lowest teirs and have everyone else (should get 12+ roles with 1T those 12 can split the last 7.3 Trill You're being a baby and shouldn't be the leader of a clan.