eewars: state of primals

Discussion in 'Wars' started by IX_THoR_XI, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. I've seen a lot of complaints regarding mismatches - complaints to devs and war clans


    Personally no point in complaining about clans - they have to right to roster bc ppl if they want


    If anything - the problem is with devs. They are the ones matching clans with 200m difference. Why? Possible that there are no clans others with closer cs they can match so devs - they rather have a mismatch war than no war at all.


    [On a side note, IMO dun use xstals in a mismatch. By spending xstals you are giving devs $$$ and implicitedly endorsing their bad matching system.]


    But there is another possibility, maybe devs are trying to kill primals off and have 100% indi wars. This is my gut feeling. These bs matches will continue to turn ppl off primals and they will do indis. Eventually with less and less clans signing up for primals, we will see an announcement that primals will be coming to an end.


    With this on the horizon, I hope that devs fixed some of issues of s5 such as....
    - needing to balence the # of spy builds on each roster
    - harsher penalties for moles and cheaters
    - I think there needs to b a means of blunting a person from cheating such as a person opening his ps (disable selling pots during war and having allies drop/sold during war)
    - I'd like to see more descriptive stats in war to include - successful/failed actions I did in war and actions from the opposing side on me, and lastly gold plundered/gold that got taken
     
  2. Just stop warring and they will do something about it I see so many people warring over and over again but still moaning if you dont like it why war? Ever thought if you all stop warring the devs will fix it?
     
  3. Personally I haven't done primals in awhile - been like over 7 months

    I don't see myself doing them again


    And yes I c less ppl doing primals but I dun see devs attempting to fix them - I think it's cuz they want primals to die

    But if u look at indi wars - more and more ppl doin them. Basically we r seeing the death of primals and the rise of indi wars
     
  4. Well let them die then they suck anyway ee used to be great now I only do a Indi every 2 weeks unless its season and even that I couldn't be bothered half way through not fun anymore.
     
  5. Main reason is 1 hour wars for me they are terrible prefer 2 hour or 4 hour.
     
  6. Sat 10am indi - 14 clans warrin


    On avg we see 2-4 clans warring for primals


    Writing on the wall guys....
     
  7. Or just stop complaining in threads and email the devs -_-
     
  8. And u think they will help just because u email them? 
     
  9. Yup, were am i supposed to get 14 other players to Sign up for Primal? :/ after Many fail attemps during The last months theres normally 5 to 7 peeps that really want War, now with a 11 vS 11 might be posible, But getting 15 peeps... Lets be honest... People dont want primals, they dont knock on The door
     
  10. I'm not complaining about primals

    Mayb I would complain if I did primals.

    If you look at s5 - devs did a great job at balencing cs, the fact that they aren't balencing cs in primals is a blatent show they are intentionally creating mismatches. It is my belief that they are trying to kill off primals. But this is their game and they create the rules - if they want to kill off primals...they have that right.

    I'm not fighting to keep primals btw - I'm not a hybrid so no clan wants me and the clans that want me are not the clans I would like to war in. I've only done indi over last 7 months - now if devs wanted to kill indi..I would complain


    What I'm advocating for is that the changes needed for indi wars b implemented b4 primals die off
     
  11. This is probably the thread that will result in wars finally being fixed.
     
  12. Nope - primals gonna die and devs not tryin to fix it


    Top tier indi not bad just hate it when spies are stacked on 1 side

    Lower tiers r filled up with moles, leaks and cheaters - my recommendations are to help lower tier indi wars
     
  13. I'm in a group that is trying to revive primals, were 70 strong and will have 4-6 teams, were still recruiting so if anyone would like to join just follow and pm me
     

  14. Someone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about, it's easy to make good matches when 40 clans were warring in s5, much much harder when 6-8 clans sign up
     
  15. If ur able kudos


    I am more skeptical cuz it appears devs r trying to create mismatches
     
  16. S5 was all indi - no primals...

    Even now more ppl participation in indi wars over primals
     
  17. If we just let Primals die, a piece of Kaw will be gone forever. Yes, emailing the Devs does work. I have emailed them almost daily about the mismatches in Primals since the end of S5. Finally they are wanting to listen. My last email back from them is asking for our suggestions on how to improve ALL wars. Primal and Indi because indi isn't without its faults too!

    Please PM me your suggestions and I will compile an email to include all pms received concerning your ideas on how to improve wars.

    Don't sit and complain. Act now or forever lose something that so many past and present have enjoyed. Warring with friends beats warring with stranger in my opinion. That is just my opinion but we all love to war in our own way.

    If you love to war, send me your email suggestions now
     
  18. Don't think suggestions to improve ee should come from anyone in your clan js.
     
  19. One obvious fix is tightening cs ranges when they match clans

    They know how to do it - why they aren't doing it now is beyond my comprehension

    How do i know - every war in s5 I helped with ss and every time both clans were within 100m of each other - more often the difference was negligible. Why there are matches with 200m difference now is the question?

    I've had my fun with primals and chaos wars but I'm a semi retired war tiger. I dun war as often as I used in s1-s4... I was warrin in and out of season often. S5 I tried to give it a go but I lost my heart to war like crazy. This has nothing to do with devs - I'm just too tired put my whole life into a game when I have a real life. I do hope that devs figure things out. Frustrating their players will kill the game and I rather see the game thrive than die.
     
  20. You said the devs did a great job in balancing cs in Indy but not in primals. The difference between the two is that in Indy the devs are creating the rosters and then matching them while in Primals its the players that create the rosters and the devs try to match THAT. It seems the most elemental difference in both war types is the players implying it IS a player issue and NOT a dev issue. Maybe the devs could do better about making up for the damage we do, but to write off the player base as not being part of the problem doesn't seem reasonable.