Warring 101: Indies (Hansel Edition)

Discussion in 'Other KaW Discussion' started by neusanse, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. This is my first ever forum topic, let alone a 'Guide.' Hopefully, I don't make myself look like a fool.

    This is all information gathered by me personally on the inner workinga of a Hansel type build in Individual wars. I have been just about every build you could possible be in the game from Shadow Hansel, Pure Spy, Attack Towered with Sdt, Attack build, hybrid build, Tank, Hansel, and now moving to Battle Hansel.

    Please be nice to me and accepts me!
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    Acronyms and Terminology
    Sko = self-knockout (0troops/spies by attacking/scouting)

    ko = knockout (an enemy forces your troop/spies to 0%)

    Red = the enemy specified is low percentage (20%-3%) ex. red 7 / cr7 red

    Zs = enemy specified has no spies

    BFA = bonus from allies

    BFE = bonus from equipment

    Skim = to hit 10% spies/troops on every member available

    Wave = your entire team attacks at once (only on advantage war type) ex. Wave @14:40 (attack an enemy at 14:40 on war clock)

    Sdp = spy def pots
    ADP = attk def pots
    ADT = attk def towers
    Sdt = spy def towers

    War Types:
    Classic: 10 minute KO
    Advantage: 7 minute KO but can stay koed for 10 minutes before being forced up.

    When your at 8% you should steal/attk with no pots used to fail and sko . if u attack with pots and succeed the enemy will most likely ko u.

    For a Hansel build, ALWAYS drain troops first unless its advantage war type and the WC tells you to lead with spies or go for control.

    In a classic war type all ko's will come up after 10 minutes of their ko. If you go down whether ko or skoed find the enemy who went down before u and spam hits to him. If he comes up go to cc and call him out "cr7 up" if someone koes him before u can hit follow next target tracker posts

    Tracker ex.
    Open: 1;2;3 window: 4;5;6
    This means 1;2;3 are open for hits
    And 4;5;6 are soon to be open

    In advantage war, ALWAYS lead with spies for control first and then plundering their last remaining ups and reups after KO unless instructed otherwise by WC.

    Helpful Hint:

    SPY COMBO
    If you are instructed to scout but can assassinate as well. I would alternate assassination and scouts to make you a more contributing Hansel.

    DOUBLE DIPPING
    Also, when running low on troops/spies but the enemy just koed 2+ enemies and are low % you may try hitting one of them twice then xstalling before you are koed to sneak an unknowing xstal. Continue to KO the 2 enemies and taking back your plunder. (I do not advise this unless instructed by WC or if you have no WC)
     
  2. Why does sko have to be by att/scout? Why fail yourself to sko? Why skim on EVERY member instead of couple hits every 5min on one person? Is someone not red if they're an xtal? Whats wrong with going spies first out of ko? How exactly is a scout/assn rotation "contributing" more?
     
  3. When did adv wars become 7-10min? Plz take time answering each. Tyvm. K
     
  4. By "battle hansel," do you mean towered hansel?
     
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  6. Ultimate goal is battle Hans. 1.5m attk/4m ADT
     
  7. Sounds like a tanksel if you're adding good sdt
     
  8. doesn't have to be and that scout Should be steal but maybe a rushed typo. With the skimming u got me that would keep u up but 10% isn't much to ask seeing as most will be going down anyways. Tanks are used as an annoyance. The more theyre hit the faster enemy goes down with minimum plunder. But that's just my personal handling as a tank was passive aggressive not just passive unless needed regen. I in my experience have always said red in reference to them being weak. That is what red usually means in most games. As I said this is a basic guide from my experience as these builds. We all know there is only an idea of what builds should do but when the punches start being thrown things very rarely go to plan and its often falls back on each persons individual skill and understanding of their builds

    Furthermore, if u can take down troops and spies how is that not contributing more? U weaken both aspects while staying concealed
     
  9. Why not assn and attempt to take down someone with you? Stealing is cool if you like leaving enemies up and able to ko your mates

    Tanks are used to clean up repins without leaking much, i suppose we agree they can be an annoyance if used correctly

    Red refers to an enemy who just ko'd a clanmate of yours, this can be from pin or xtal. If they are weak call them weak, or call them invictus. Same difference 

    Taking down both is simply assn, generally you rotate assn/scout if you're attempting to ako. Dont leave them full troops allowing them plunder, but dont leave them low enough to sko quick

    Dont forget the other questions

    Ps, you forgot random war type
     
  10. advantage war ko timer is between 7 and 13 minutes, not 7 and 10 minutes also.

    (Sry if someone else posted this, too much text to bother reading)

    Edit: Omar is god
     
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  12. Hai im omar the almighty
     
  13. I would change the definition of skim to just going after 1 or more players. I've never really seen a wc say to skim every target at the same time. It's usually just 1 or 2 targets or he separated smalls/mids/bigs on different skims.

    This is normally how I see wc's do the skimming.
     
  14. All praise be to Omar.
     
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  18. saiyan if you could fix up this guide I can add it to my stickied guide at the top of strategy.
     
  19. Just reviewed your guide & it is a pretty decent guide for the basics of warring. Without picking it apart too much, I found some errors in which I will show my responses to in orange:

    War Types:
    Classic: 10 minute KO
    Advantage: 7 minute KO but can stay koed for 10 minutes before being forced up.
    You forgot about the random ko ruleset in which you are forced out of ko randomly 5-10mins after you go down.
    In advantage you are down for 7mins minimum with a 6min window (7-13mins)


    For a Hansel build, ALWAYS drain troops first unless its advantage war type and the WC tells you to lead with spies or go for control.
    For the most part you lead spies on CLASSIC as it is all about control, & lead troops on ADVANTAGE since it is mostly about plunder & getting rid of your troops so enemy cannot plunder them (I usually have hansels lead troops then ass for plunder & control).

    In advantage war, ALWAYS lead with spies for control first and then plundering their last remaining ups and reups after KO unless instructed otherwise by WC.
    Usually hansels dump troops first on advantage (if there is a plunderable target) as advantage is more about plunder & getting rid of your troops so enemy cannot plunder them (I usually have hansels lead troops then ass for plunder & control).

    Red = the enemy specified is low percentage (20%-3%) ex. red 7 / cr7 red
    Red refers to the color the enemy's name shows up when they KO one of your teammates. Red = an enemy who KO'd one of your teammates.

    Skim = to hit 10% spies/troops on every member available
    Skimming is keeping your troops or spies high & dropping one-two attacks or spy actions on an enemy as you regen.
    Skimming is usually done by tanks coordinating focused actions on a single target while still remaining high troops so they can absorb enemy inc/cause them to fail as well as to achieve maximum plunder per hit (because attack/tank build's plunder per hit decreases as their army gets lower).


    Sko = self-knockout (0troops/spies by attacking/scouting)
    SKO is mostly accomplished through attacking & stealing without pots as it kills your troops/spies the fastest. When coming out of pin (unless instructed otherwise) I usually lead full pot attack then full pot ass on a high plunder target I know is weak but the best actions to use when SKOing depends on your speed & how many people who know are going to be spamming you.