Kezzer's thought for talk Welcome to Kezzer's thought for talk, a thread I have been meaning to put together for some weeks now in which I will put up a new discussion each week for the kaw-munity to analyse and discuss which will be based on kaw related matters. This will be updated each week with a brief but descriptive issue for you the community to discuss. There won't be any fancy pictures so if that is all you are after then this isn't the thread for you. List of Issues Week 1 - page 1 Week 2 - page 3 Week 3 - page 4 Week 4 - page 4 Week 5 - page 5
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk HTE and Events There has been a lot of discussion as to whether HTE should be part of the events recently as they provide too many advantages over the non paying players. Basic opinions about this are: Pros: HTE brings in revenue to kaw and helps keep the game funded and going. Cons: The events become "unbalanced" or "boring" due to the majority of the top PvE players doing constant HTE. Those are just two basic opinions, what will you bring to the discussion?
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Screw EBs. PvP events and incentives! But, yeah, HTE should have it's own section of the promo / event :lol:
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk How would you go about splitting it off? Would you want it to have different rewards or just a different leaderboard.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk I only recently came back on KaW after a long absence so I'm happy to find an EB like HTE to get me going again. It takes long enough to grow my stats already so without the EB it would become hard to make gold unless I convert to spy build and go PvP it seems. Also with the new war system(to me at least) HTE is a great way to get ready for war quickly as I have done a few since I got back. Although I lost most times but hey Im learning! So yay for HTE events!
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Implement better incentives for pvp over pve. Hte can still be included during an event, but incentivize the pvp aspect during the event. This could mean slightly higher stats for pvp equip, etc. This will definitely result in increased participants in pvp as opposed to what we saw last event which barely had over 5000 participants.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Very few comments so far yet so much has been brought to the discussion. I understand that HTE is a great way to catch up in the game if you fall behind however does it need to be included in the events? PvP is seen as the harder more prestigious route but does that mean the rewards should be better?
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk I do agree with hte having its own section for an event, but since that is unlikely to happen, I'd just go pvp. It'd much easier to do. Heck, I stayed in the top 500 for the first week in the last pvp event until real life got in the way of my kaw time.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk To answer your question, the game was originally made under the pvp basis. So, I would say that pvp events should have the better rewards over the eb events bc let's face it, people who do eb events don't really use their bfe like people who do pvp events. Those who participate in the pvp event will actually need the equipment for the next pvp event.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Most people who do PvE only use bfe for potless hits on ebs. That's it. PvPers will use it for both PvE and PvP so I actually like that point
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Only prob is SH and SSH rule the realm because of 5 yr old hit mechanics. So I do not support PVP getting better rewards based off this. Look at S2 EE wars and on. SH builds are easy to build and were used to gain all rewards of Mith from. Never grew because of that advantage. Same with ppl who dropped build. Ask yourself why they did. Cause SH builds have that advantage. Some call cheat, exploit, unfair. I'm pointing out fact of what is proven - broken mechanics of hit ratio per payouts
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk Errrm, I haven't seen any sh participate in the last pvp event, and if they did, I never noticed. Every sh I've seen since that event has flame achievement. They might rule round wars, but they don't rule the Pvp events.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk - Week 1 HTE Ok so seeing as the discussion seems to have slowed let me add another point to it. HTE earns all the items but at a lower rate than if you did bigger EBs such as the scrag series. Would it be better for the devs to make it so that HTE earns only 1 item so that B2B HTE is no longer an advantage or would you rather that HTE earns all items but due to this advantage earns a much lower amount?
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk - Week 1 HTE With the patron saints event, I did notice that the drop rate varied big time. I did a t1 eb and got like 65 bowstrings on 1 unload while on hte, I only got like 25 of each item at a time. So, by definition, if you could find 4 eb's that dropped different items and could do them fast enough, you could be earning more than the average hte clan. First event I've seen where devs actually didn't put everything in favor of hte.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk I saw many SSH or even 2m cs hansels in event, as I know them and they did well on collecting. Who won the last one in first place? Oh that's right. Build I just mentioned. So your comment is irrelavent.
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk - Week 1 HTE Build doesnt influence drop rate but if you hit larger/smaller players the pay out increaes/decreaes. You dont have to be a sh for this. I got 17 base drops too. As for hte. The main problem is people dont care enough about events. There were no event clans as far i noticted and if there were they could have gathered quite a lot. But since hte clogs up top 500 why care. Back to quatzel hunt! that was even a fun hte race
Re: Kezzer's thought for talk - Week 1 HTE Hmmm HTE vs PVP. Thanks to devs there were two PVP events in last 2-3 months. I felt overjoyed when i saw the same but thoroughly dissapointed by the outcome..People cribbing over HTE but who can justify the existence of farming osf or alts in PVP? Coninuos farm alt/osf ...alt goes ps with goldout and booya u r the beast of a pvp event....Its not at all PVP, it is just cheating. If you really want to have actual PVP please hit people who hit back..Well most of you guys did but see where you finished in the rank..So PVP event sucks bad atm if Devs dont address the issue well. No fingerpointing to anyone just expressing my thought and I dont care who comes first or last in the event....am I sounding butthurt...I might be but I dont care...HTE is though money sucking machine still its fair...I am no particular lover of HTE though it has helped me a lot in my growth.