Considering the choices of wars to pick from there r many since the days before EE. How would offering IWar with Primal rules sound. Maybe bury Round Wars if they r taking up space in use that slot. Would a random IWar roster cs vs cs be a decent option to try out?
I think I'm missing something here. I only seem to be able to comprehend the part about the sdt/adp pots. Yes, I understand if you have defense pots, you pay more, but, how is that a problem? Every clan Ive warred in has also said to sell any defense pots. I haven't warred with defense pots in months. So, I'm not seeing a problem here. Easy fix. But it seems I'm missing a bigger picture to your post, op. So, please, enlighten me on what you mean exactly.
The gist i gather is hansel payout to Att build vs att payout to hansels is skewed. Hansels stealing can be a strategy when Primal wars match up cs to cs. All ppl know hansel cs is more powerful than attack on a 1 for 1 basis. Idk that is my limits if i'm getting it. Say 15vs15 @450m cs total each 15x30m cs PS1 vs assorted Tanks/Hybrids Which roster will win?
Depends on the war type and how good the wc/tracker is. I've lost a war against assorted hansels/tanks on a full ps/SH roster, except in a adv war. The WC has us wave and we won every time. Yes, I see how that's unfair, but, if you added in some ps to protect the Hansels/tanks, wouldn't that solve the problem?
Yes of course if given equally competitive rosters. Each war type has its tactics n strategy whether rosters or ongoing war orders. Ops is saying pots determine war in an unequal way.
I think the match up system is what's broken. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, if you did a 1v1 Ee war, and you were a ps that matched a hansel/tank your size, who would win? I'm assuming the ps would win. This is what KAW is doing but on a scale of 15, correct? Why not just match builds instead of Çš? 6 ps, 4 tanks, 5 hansels. That could match a 5 ps, 5 tank, 5 hansel roster and it'd be closer to fair than a ps roger against a assorted hansel/tank roster, correct? I could be wayyy of. If I am, I apologize. I'm still learning this stuff
I'm always learnin too A 1v1 EE would prolly be who can dive soonest n get a plunder lead big enuf they can SKO til end of war n win. 15 vs 15 is another beast all together.
The pattern we see is every EE system the devs bring out the smartest war brainiacs figure out best rosters to get the upperhand. Hats off to them i'm a war grunt only n always behind the curve Some ppl r envious of the top thinkers n leaders. I prefer continually learnin war stuff n whats n whys of my own build.
The issue Spil is bringing up is that the stacking of ps1 builds with no def pots makes it overly difficult to be an equal match due to them paying crap to attacks. If a hansel paid roughly the same as an attack build of similar stats regardless if they have def pots or not, then the exploited advantage would be neutralized. Spil won't bash the clans that "figured it out", but as many others have said this is the same weak ass strategy all the other stacking clans have done since EE started. I call it like I see it and that's that. I feel that if the builds ability to plunder and be plundered was equal for same cs regardless of pots, then war rosters could and would be balanced regardless of stacking. ️
Exactly joshie. This IS the same circumstance as with sh in previous seasons . Obv the other underlying problem here is lack of participation and matchups being off . Unfortunately wars just aren't the biggest revenue stream in kaw therefore they will not be given the attention they deserves. And I think devs have proven that in the past and continue to prove that.
That's not technically true regarding the hansel vs att build. 1. For some reason sdt is extremely effective, 6m sdt is enough to stop 14 or so of my 18 potted steals. Cs vs cs Me 16m cs vs att build of 3/6/1/6 = I have practically no chance. My attacks won't get through, my steals won't get through. How on earth is it that people can still say in a time where it's possible to have more sdt than a hansel can have in spy attack, that hansels and pure spies have it made?
I don't know how I feel about this subject... Pots are an essential part of EE. They can mean the difference on whether or not you get ko'd. You having pots might have saved your team from losing because you didn't get ko'd that one last time. I don't have a stance on this subject.
I think you're missing my point I'm not calling for the end of pots , I'm pointing out that people are purposely not using them in order to gain an advantage in ee This imo is not the "spirit" of the pot mechanic
Rio you are a mid hansel. You are not meant to asn people with 6 mil sdt you are meant to asn people with 3 mil sdt There's always bigger fish that we can't touch and that's not what this thread is about.
It is impossible to fix EE. I know it is. Unforseen variables will always arise. Devs will always come up short. Events will rule kaw. Dev made matching (ie indi) wars could be the solution. Kills clans ability to out think devs. Indi-primal, indi-round and regular indi wars would be the easiest fix. Lb tier indi needs tweaked, but without completely rethinking ee, these solutions are the easiest. I'm ready to retire from ee anyways. Devs have shown us little to no promise of revamping ee to make it exciting again. War crystals? Lol. Fool me once...shame on me. Fool me twice... Spil, I completely see and understand your stance. Devs should come out and show a timeline and their intentions on EE for the future. That would be helpful.
Agreed. However those with pots pay more because they are stronger than those without and people's payout are "supposedly" based on their strength compared to the attacker.
Spil a good thread Anytime i hear exploit instead of stacking i think of a poor sport when not referring to round war. As for fixing EE that is overrated by too many ppl as well. I'm all for war xtals so ppl who arbitrarily war solo r not a constant problem. As for no ADP for hansels n less plunder given maybe increase KO payout accordingly to offset the anomaly. Its a waste of pots for hansels protecting whats easily burned thru.
Why? My point is (and you would see that if you read it) that it's easily possible to have an att build the same size as me with nearly, or the same in sdt as I have in spy att.