deflate gate. American grid iron talk

Discussion in 'Other KaW Discussion' started by Moose2, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. If the balls were tampered with, and the evidence shows that the Pats did it. Then the Colts should go to the Super bowl, I hate cheaters and want to see them suffer (not going to superbowl)
     
  2. You can easily say the Pats haters are being wicked biased to supporting the deflategate, compared to fans who love the pats being biased saying, quit being so ******* butt hurt that our team has been a top dog for the last 15 years.
     
  3. God bless America. Portions of the world are imploding and 'deflategate' is what's being run with. I'm waiting for the congressional inquiry, and the appointing of a special counsel. Should note though, beware the fallacy of an emotional response indicating innocence or guilt. Study after study have shown any such assumption, much like eye witness accounts, unreliable. Very much amused by journalists who still assert that they weigh the footballs and they were too light. I'm going to posit the simple explanation that the equipment manager, after neatly folding all the superstars underwear and placing neatly in locker went and inflated footballs in comfy equipment room at 76 degrees Fahrenheit and stuffed in sack which was given to officials. After sitting on sideline and being used in game at 40 degrees...well anyways coming soon to an episode of mythbusters near you. I also blame Brady for deflating my car tires, and my birthday balloons, and wait a second...the football in my closet is flat and I just inflated that at Thanksgiving...what the....son of a....BRAAAAAAAAAAAAADY!!!!
     
  4. You all line up against the wall blindfolded and I will throw a series of footballs of different p.s.i. at you. When I am done, you can tell me which one was 1-2 p.s.i. underinflated. On 2. Ready. Break. Lol.
     
  5. On top, with cheating scandals.

    As others have stated in this thread, people don't hate excellence. People hate cheaters. Your post is an appeal to emotion with slightly trollish overtones, but it ignores the larger point. Rules were broken and, given the cheating history the patriots already have, its natural to suspect foul play. Especially when all the evidence points too it.

    So no, pats aren't hated because they win. If that were true, then, before his fall from grace, lance Armstrong would have been the most hated person in sports, but, he was loved almost universally, and only fell from grace due to the fact he was caught lying and cheating.

    Its a damn shame with New England, because they could have been loved and adored by America. They could have been a shining example of what hard work and talent can do, but, instead, they are hated because they are a team riddled with multiple scandals and they've shown a stun in lack of integrity, and the best that those who don't care can muster as a response is "you hate us because we win"

    To believe that is to utterly misread the hearts and minds of he majority of sports fans.
     
  6. The Hoodie should be suspended immediately and the Patriots should be fined draft picks.
     
  7. This stupid on every level....
     
  8. is it out the window that the colts could have did this in any way? Just curious.

    Not the avid football watcher.
     
  9. Colts game balls were tested and met specs.
     
  10. And where was Gisele during this 'incident'? Hmmmmm? Brazilians are notoriously fond of soccer...errrr.. 'futbol' and who better than a sneaky beautiful supermodel to execute their plan to destroy real football. No one suspects the supermodel.
     
  11. I would like to share this quote from Aaron Rodgers" he does not like how the referees handle the balls. If a ball comes in over inflated the referees take some air out. The majority of the time the, referees take air out of the football. I think for me that is a disadvantage." According to NFL rule book. Each team sends 12 balls to the referees to test 2 hours prior to kick off. The balls are tested for pressure....."Then the balls will remain under a referee's supervision until they are delivered to a ball attendant just before kickoff." As I said this is the referees responsibility....
     
  12. Rules do state Goodell can do this. But highly unlikely here if facts prove patriots are guilty. It has to be something so extraordinary tgat it for sure changed the outcome of the game. I don't see under inflated balls changing that outcome
     
  13. http://www.nepatriotslife.com/2015/01/p ... l.html?m=1

    Considering new englands past, things just dont add up.
     
  14. I asked if the Colts' hands are clean or dirty.

    If all the balls were tested good before game, and during game, only the Pat's balls were found under specs, could the Colts have a hand in this somewhere?
     
  15. Slayerbob:
    I'm not going to click on a series of links that are vomited up on my screen.

    Formulate your own posts please 

    Also, none of your links work
     
  16. 4 of the colts balls were under inflated.
     
  17. The Patriots didn't need to cheat. Everybody here knows that.
    If anything, the colts would be the ones that needed to cheat. But the colts have a good reputation.
     
  18. You gotta copy it and paste in an internet app's url.

    One of the reports that started the media circus, now dubbed DeflateGate, was that apparently Colts linebacker D'Qwell Jackson thought the football he intercepted from Tom Brady in the first half felt flat.

    It started a whirlwind that culminated in two confusing press conferences from Patriots head coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady. Jackson spoke out today, claiming that he never noticed anything wrong with the football. In fact, he said the Patriots weren't even using their own balls. At one point, they were using the Colts' balls that were, reportedly, at legal pressure.

    NFL.com:
    The game official mentioned something about their efforts to locate a usable football. Shortly after, Jackson noticed that the Patriots were using the Colts' footballs late in the first half. Jackson said it was odd to him that New England couldn't find a football to use, especially in the AFC Championship Game.

    The deflategate story was started by Indianapolis TV newsman Bob Kravitz, who reported that the NFL was investigating the Patriots' use of deflated balls in the first half of the AFC Championship.

    Kravitz's report was followed up by one from Bob Glauber of the New York News Day.

    According to a person familiar with the background of the matter, the Colts first noticed something unusual after an interception by Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson in the second quarter. Jackson gave the ball to a member of the Colts' equipment staff, who noticed the ball seemed underinflated and then notified coach Chuck Pagano.

    General manager Ryan Grigson was notified in the press box, and he contacted Mike Kensil, NFL director of football operations. Kensil then told the on-field officials at halftime, when the Patriots led 17-7.

    Kravtiz confirmed this report, but clarified that D'Qwell Jackson never claimed to have noticed anything wrong with the football. This was two days ago.

    WTHR:
    "D'Qwell Jackson told me Monday he did not notice the ball seemed under-inflated, but my source tells me that's when Colts became suspicious," WTHR.com's Bob Kravitz confirms.

    However, a report from WCVB in Boston made it seem like it was Jackson who noticed the under-inflation.

    WCVB:
    Sources tell SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch that D'Qwell Jackson, of the Indianapolis Colts, intercepted a pass before the end of the first half of the AFC Championship game against the New England Patriots Sunday night and told his equipment manager that the ball felt under-inflated, leading to the so-called 'deflategate' controversy.

    In a showcase of how ridiculous this story of deflated footballs has become, the conflicting nature of the reports of Kravtiz/Glauber vs Lynch went unnoticed. Instead, they have gone through a warped game of twitter telephone in which they both become the same.

    Pundits and fans alike started citing the linebacker noticing that something was wrong with the ball as evidence that the alleged (up to) 2 psi deflation in 11 of the 12 Patriots balls was apparent (EDIT: Brady cleared up today, the Patriots provided 24 balls. It was 11 of 24 balls), and that the players on New England should have noticed it.

    As an example, here's how Yahoo Sports' Frank Schwab reported the story, linking Glauber's report with Lynch's.

    Yahoo Sports:
    According to New York Newsday and WCVB in Boston, Jackson believed the ball wasn't inflated as much as usual. He told a Colts equipment manager the ball felt under-inflated and gave it to him. The equipment man told Colts coach Chuck Pagano on the sideline. That message was relayed to Colts general manager Ryan Grigson in the press box, who told NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, Newsday and WCVB said.

    Jackson took it upon himself today to clarify that he never noticed anything was wrong with the ball, despite what people were saying.



    Jeff Darlington of NFL.com clears things up even further with Jackson.

    "I wouldn't know how that could even be an advantage or a disadvantage," Jackson said. "I definitely wouldn't be able to tell if one ball had less pressure than another."

    Jackson also said he holds no bitter feelings toward the Patriots -- nor does he feel his team was cheated -- if indeed New England deliberately deflated the footballs.

    "It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game," Jackson said. "They outplayed us. We didn't match their intensity. I don't feel slighted at all personally. They created turnovers, they ran the ball on us. They won that game because of their intensity -- not the pressure of a football."
     
  19. Who's to say the colts didnt cheat, and just didnt get caught? How many teams have cheated and never got caught because they aren't new england? This is obviously a bold assumption, but I'm guessing more than just 1.