XTAL COUNTER DISCUSSION THREAD

Discussion in 'Other KaW Discussion' started by XIXIXShO_TiMEXlXIX, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. If the war is close I can see why needing to crystal but majority of wars both sides can tell who is going to win before the war is even over. Many war clans require a crystal ever war and if you don't well you can't get into any good war clan. This is true that people get irate at those who are inactive but what hurts a clan more? Someone who is active and not able to crystal or inactive? Every war clan I have seen first question "Can you crystal every war" you say no your done. A crystal counter I don't think is needed though as its easy to spot those who didn't crystal and those who have. Not hard just want to see why people want the system to do it and not rely on their own eyes instead?
     
  2. I do xtl when if its down to the wire. Otherwise, usually not in an Indi. If you dont agree, hopefully you dont war with me. I consistently make top 5-10 as a PS without xtling

    Now I DO xtl during Primal/Round. So if Im "blacklisted" from EE clans bc I dont give a **** about Indi then thats pretty dumb
     
  3. Why can there not be war with no xtals? I ask the question because it would mean a better strategy is required. Let's make indi wars non-xtal wars so everyone can enjoy this part of kaw. Of course those people who enjoy war will then want to join other wars with xtals. Therefore I suggest indi no xtal wars are 'half' as rewarding as xtal required wars. This will result in more people wanting to war overall resulting in better prepared and most importantly better war match ups.
     
  4. I fully support a crystal counter.

    While its true that this isn't a pay to play game, it has pay to play features and some people need to come to terms with that.

    I don't war. Let me get that out of the way right now.
     
  5. I don't see your guys argument, most of the time you can tell if someone has xtaled but not all the time. If you don't xtal then that's fine don't xtal, but what's your reason why they should not install a xtal counter?

    Most wars including indi wars everyone says I xtaled but this will allow us to know who is telling the truth. Only reason not to support it is if you are one of those people who claim they xtaled and scared to get caught in their own lies.
     
  6. No support. They will farm whoever doesn't have a xtal which is no fair if they can't purchase.
     
  7. Or, people have a legitimate argument to what you are saying. I hate when people put disclaimers like that. 


    Again, it would single people out. Why does one need to know? We already see enough of, "player a went inactive last war." Or "player c cant sko."

    Personally, I don't see the need.
     
  8. Whoops, accidentally submit xD

    Anyways.

    Just because its become a trend in wars to Crystal, doesn't mean its a bad thing.

    If we apply a crystal counter, and the non crystalers get blacklisted for their actions, oh well, you knew it would happen.

    KaW society has made it so crystals are "needed" in war. You want to war, crystal.

    You don't have the money, find a clan that doesn't crystal, or expect to win for that matter.

    Making a crystal counter wouldn't make KaW a pay to play game, it would still be free, but SOCIETY will state you need to pay, NOT the Devs.

    I don't war and I don't care, but if its costing hard warrers the war, its not fair to them and you DONT deserve to be in their clan.

    Plain and simple.
     
  9. My point Causality. Not all warts have to be crystal mandated wars. Ideas of no crystals or war crystals that can be bought with in game gold based upon stats (eg. Mithril) to allow ALL players to war not a select amount. Those who don't crystal either can't or don't want to its their choice as to if they want to don't think they would want everyone seeing and being humiliated out of wars or kaw now.
     
  10. I would love to see a rotation in the war styles that is similar to season 4 except with 2 different types of indy wars. One for xtals and one without any xtals. This would hopefully make it so that the people who do not xtal in wars don't bring other people down
     
  11. You can see who has crystaled low actions low mith count it's obvious to see honestly. I just see the need and people get "blacklisted" now from EE clans for not crystaling one time already see "player a can't sko or is inactive now it's also gonna include oh this player can't crystal there a noob for not spending rl money on a game. Great argument all making kaw hate certain players more and more.
     
  12. I can see xtal and no xtals wars that would work.y point is that many people spend real money for xtals and it is needed for many wars. Those that don't xtal can cost them the war and make them waste that dollar in the process. They will be singled out and possible farmed. But that's the risk of joining an ee war knowing you won't xtal. Make two wars and let those that can't or won't xtal do those wars and one for xtals. It's unfair for 20-25 people to xtal and spend real money and 1 person who does not cost those to lose the war.
     
  13. Two separates I can agree with. Also a crystal counter would make it obvious who didn't crystal and they can hide drop allies and bank. Why not let them get away with it wait a day or two track and strip them? Seems to me it makes more of a statement then just farming the person knowing there gonna be farmed.
     
  14. Support 100%
     
  15. Pg 4
    @choas

    Support all of that
     
  16. Add in war xstals maybe people will start crystaling. Not every one wants to spend money on a "free" game.
     
  17. I agree with maybe special war xtals that can be only used in wars and earned from eb's or hitting other people with war xtals on them.
     
  18. Support.

    I also think that failed actions should be listed as well. Would end the controversial "they were inactive" vs "how do you know they just didn't get any successful actions" argument.